Travis and Eric sit down for a candid conversation about how beginners should actually get started in real estate—without overthinking strategy or blindly trusting gurus. Drawing on Travis’s own “real estate dabbler” experience and recent insights from billion‑dollar multifamily operator Veena Jetti, they break down mindset, risk, education, and why doing a small, imperfect first deal usually beats sitting on the sidelines.

On this episode we talk about:

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  Why there’s so much conflicting advice on “where to start” (house hack, flip, small multifamily, or go straight to big apartments)

  
  


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  Veena Jetti’s perspective on skipping single‑family and going directly into multifamily—and when that’s realistic versus paralyzing

  
  


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  Creative ways to get into deals without being the one writing the big check, from finding and structuring deals to partnering and earning equity

  
  


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  The risks of trusting operators you don’t understand, the importance of knowing how the deal makes money, and why “just give it to the expert” can backfire

  
  


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  How Airbnb shifted from easy arbitrage to a hospitality business, and why hotels and experiential short‑term rentals may now have the edge

  
  

Top 3 Takeaways

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   The best “first strategy” is the one you will actually execute; do a real deal—any reasonable, understandable deal—rather than spending years trying to pick the perfect niche.

   
   


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   Never invest in a deal you can’t clearly explain, especially when you’re handing money to an operator; understand how value is created, where it can break, and what your actual risk is.

   
   


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   Real estate is a business, not a magic passive ATM: whether it’s multifamily, flips, or Airbnb, expect real work, real learning, and some paid tuition in the form of mistakes along the way.

   
   

Notable Quotes

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  "If you sit on the sidelines trying to decide your strategy for five years, you’re losing money and time—go do something."

  
  


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  "Don’t assume that because someone knows more than you, they know everything; if you can’t explain how the deal makes money, you shouldn’t be wiring money into it."

  
  


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  "Airbnb today is closer to running a hotel than owning a rental—it’s hospitality, not a set‑and‑forget investment.

  
  

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