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Marriage Fights Happen. Get Better at Fighting! | Penn & Kim Holderness (BEST OF MKM)

Marriage Fights Happen. Get Better at Fighting! | Penn & Kim Holderness (BEST OF MKM)

Update: 2023-03-06


Are you having more marriage fights lately?

Penn and Kim Holderness, of Holderness Family Productions, join us to discuss their book "Everybody Fights: So Why Not Get Better at It?".

After more than a decade of being married and working together, Kim and Penn share how they embrace the marriage fights and the tactics they use to resolve them.

In this BEST OF MKM episode from 2021, I was lucky to have Nicole join me for the interview too!


Everybody Fights: So Why Not Get Better At It? (Book): (affiliate link)

GUEST BIO - Penn and Kim Holderness

Kim and Penn Holderness have been married for 16 years. For seven of those years, they have chronicled their marriage and their family with funny music videos, vlogs, skits, and a podcast. Their videos have garnered over a billion views worldwide.

Penn and Kim honed their storytelling skills with 25 combined years in the TV news business. When the wonderful worlds of YouTube and Facebook appeared, Kim had the idea to ditch the traditional broadcast world and start making content in the digital space.

When they aren’t dancing around like crazy people on the internet, Penn and Kim help international companies make videos of their own. Penn and Kim live in Raleigh with their two children and dog.


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Marriage Fights Happen. Get Better at Fighting! | Penn & Kim Holderness (BEST OF MKM)

Marriage Fights Happen. Get Better at Fighting! | Penn & Kim Holderness (BEST OF MKM)

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