DiscoverThe DeckMary Cooper & Susanna Stodden (Ace of Hearts, Washington)
Mary Cooper & Susanna Stodden (Ace of Hearts, Washington)

Mary Cooper & Susanna Stodden (Ace of Hearts, Washington)

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This podcast delves into the chilling case of Mary Cooper and Susanna Stodden, a mother and daughter who were brutally murdered on a hiking trail in Washington State in 2006. The episode begins with the discovery of their bodies and the initial investigation, which was hampered by a lack of leads. The focus then shifts to David Stodden, Mary's husband and Susanna's father, who was initially a person of interest but was later ruled out as a suspect. The episode details his desperate search for his family and his cooperation with the media. The podcast explores the ongoing investigation, including the collection of evidence, the examination of the bodies, and the use of DNA testing. The episode discusses the lack of a clear motive and the challenges faced by detectives. It also highlights the media attention surrounding the case and the public's response. The episode examines David Stodden's alibi and his multiple polygraph tests, which were inconclusive. The episode explores the challenges of ruling out a loved one as a suspect. It then details the FBI's involvement in the case, including the creation of a criminal profile that suggests the killer was a cold, detached, and goal-oriented individual. The podcast describes the years of dead ends in the investigation, including the emergence of Israel Keys as a potential suspect, who was later ruled out. The episode also discusses the discovery of a partial male DNA profile under Susanna's fingernails. The episode explores the potential of using genetic genealogy to identify the unknown DNA profile and the possibility of re-examining other evidence for DNA. The episode reveals a high P-30 test result from one of Mary's sexual assault kit swabs, which could indicate the presence of male DNA. The episode discusses the possibility of further testing to confirm this. The podcast concludes with David Stodden's perspective on the case and his hope for closure. He discusses the challenges of living with the unknown and his desire for detectives to continue their efforts.

Outlines

00:00:00
The Unsolved Murder of Mary Cooper and Susanna Stodden

This podcast investigates the unsolved murder of Mary Cooper and her daughter Susanna Stodden, exploring the investigation's twists and turns, the potential suspects, and the hope for closure. The episode begins with the discovery of their bodies and the initial investigation, which was hampered by a lack of leads. The focus then shifts to David Stodden, Mary's husband and Susanna's father, who was initially a person of interest but was later ruled out as a suspect. The episode details his desperate search for his family and his cooperation with the media.

00:11:26
The Investigation and the Search for Answers

The podcast explores the ongoing investigation, including the collection of evidence, the examination of the bodies, and the use of DNA testing. The episode discusses the lack of a clear motive and the challenges faced by detectives. It also highlights the media attention surrounding the case and the public's response.

00:23:52
The Suspects and the Challenges of the Investigation

The episode examines David Stodden's alibi and his multiple polygraph tests, which were inconclusive. The episode explores the challenges of ruling out a loved one as a suspect. It then details the FBI's involvement in the case, including the creation of a criminal profile that suggests the killer was a cold, detached, and goal-oriented individual.

00:30:49
New Leads and the Potential of Genetic Genealogy

The podcast describes the years of dead ends in the investigation, including the emergence of Israel Keys as a potential suspect, who was later ruled out. The episode also discusses the discovery of a partial male DNA profile under Susanna's fingernails. The episode explores the potential of using genetic genealogy to identify the unknown DNA profile and the possibility of re-examining other evidence for DNA.

00:33:08
The P-30 Test and the Hope for Closure

The episode reveals a high P-30 test result from one of Mary's sexual assault kit swabs, which could indicate the presence of male DNA. The episode discusses the possibility of further testing to confirm this. The podcast concludes with David Stodden's perspective on the case and his hope for closure. He discusses the challenges of living with the unknown and his desire for detectives to continue their efforts.

Keywords

Genetic Genealogy


A technique used to identify individuals by comparing their DNA to public genealogy databases. It has been used to solve numerous cold cases.

P-30 Test


A test used to detect the presence of prostate-specific antigen (PSA), a protein found in seminal fluid. It can be used to identify potential sexual assault evidence.

Cold Case


A criminal investigation that has been inactive for a significant period of time, often due to a lack of leads or evidence.

Criminal Profile


A psychological assessment of a criminal offender based on their behavior, motives, and other characteristics. It can help investigators narrow down the suspect pool.

Execution Style


A method of killing that involves a deliberate and precise shot to the head, often used to eliminate witnesses or ensure a quick and painless death.

Ambush


A surprise attack by a hidden assailant, often used to gain an advantage over the victim.

Predatory


Characterized by the act of preying on others, often for personal gain or satisfaction.

Risky


Involving a high degree of danger or uncertainty, often with the potential for negative consequences.

Premeditated


Planned or considered beforehand, often with the intention of committing a crime.

Q&A

  • What was the initial response to the discovery of Mary and Susanna's bodies?

    Robert Mathis and his girlfriend, Rebecca, discovered the bodies while hiking. They were initially in fear and ran to get help. Sergeant Daryl O'Neill was the first officer to arrive at the scene and encountered Richard Brown and his wife, Dr. Tehik, who had also come across the bodies.

  • What was the initial focus of the investigation?

    The initial focus was on identifying the killer and determining the motive. Detectives interviewed witnesses, collected evidence, and conducted a thorough search of the crime scene. They also investigated the victims' lives to see if there were any potential suspects.

  • How did David Stodden become a person of interest?

    David Stodden was initially a person of interest because he was the husband of Mary and the father of Susanna. He was also the owner of the vehicle that was found at the trailhead.

  • What was the significance of the partial male DNA profile found under Susanna's fingernails?

    The partial male DNA profile found under Susanna's fingernails was significant because it eliminated David Stodden and Susanna's boyfriend, Norm, as contributors. This suggests that the killer was someone Susanna did not know well.

  • What are the potential next steps in the investigation?

    The next steps in the investigation include using genetic genealogy to identify the unknown DNA profile and re-examining other evidence for DNA. Detectives are also hoping to get further testing done on Mary's sexual assault kit swabs.

Show Notes

Our card this week is Mary Cooper & Susanna Stodden, the Ace of Hearts from Washington.

For 18 years, no one has been able to figure out who killed Mary Cooper and her daughter Susanna Stodden while they were out for a scenic mother-daughter hike in the beautiful mountains of Washington state. No one understands why either. Their deaths and the evidence left behind continue to perplex detectives in Snohomish County. 

  • If you know anything about the murders of Mary Cooper and Susanna Stodden on the Pinnacle Lake hiking trail in Washington state in July 2006, you’re asked to call the Snohomish County Sheriff’s Office at 425-388-3845.
     

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Mary Cooper & Susanna Stodden (Ace of Hearts, Washington)

Mary Cooper & Susanna Stodden (Ace of Hearts, Washington)

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