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Mavis Staples on Prince, MLK and a life onstage

Mavis Staples on Prince, MLK and a life onstage

Update: 2024-07-09
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Brittany Luse welcomes Mavis Staples to "It's Been a Minute" to celebrate her 85th birthday. They discuss Staples' early career, her mentorship from Mahalia Jackson, and her role in the Civil Rights Movement. Staples shares a memory of meeting Martin Luther King Jr. and how her family's gospel group, the Staples Singers, became an influential part of the movement's sound. Staples also reflects on her collaborations with other musicians, including Prince, Aretha Franklin, and Curtis Mayfield, and how she views music as a spiritual practice. The episode concludes with a listener's story about the advice she received from her harp teacher, "Who said you have to get better?" and Luse's own experience with a mentor who encouraged her to trust her own interests.

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Mavis Staples: A Legend Celebrated

This Chapter introduces Mavis Staples, a legendary soul and gospel singer, and the focus of the episode. Brittany Luse celebrates Staples' 85th birthday and highlights her significant contributions to music and culture.

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Mavis Staples' Journey: From Gospel to Secular Music

This Chapter delves into Mavis Staples' career, exploring her early days with her family's gospel group, the Staples Singers, and her transition to secular music. The chapter discusses the challenges she faced, including criticism from some churches, and her unwavering commitment to her music.

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Music as a Life Practice: Mavis Staples' Enduring Legacy

This Chapter explores Mavis Staples' perspective on music as a life practice and a spiritual practice. She shares her thoughts on the importance of using her voice as a gift from God and her determination to continue making music throughout her life. The chapter also highlights the impact of mentors and the power of trusting one's own interests.

Keywords

Mavis Staples


Mavis Staples is an American singer, songwriter, and actress. She is known for her work in gospel, soul, and blues music. Staples is a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and has won numerous awards for her contributions to music. She is also a prominent figure in the Civil Rights Movement, having sung at many rallies and marches alongside Martin Luther King Jr. Staples' music is characterized by her powerful vocals, her commitment to social justice, and her ability to connect with audiences across generations.

Mahalia Jackson


Mahalia Jackson was an American gospel singer who was one of the most influential vocalists of the 20th century. She was known for her powerful voice and her passionate performances. Jackson was a close friend of Martin Luther King Jr. and sang at many of his rallies and marches. She was also a mentor to many young singers, including Mavis Staples. Jackson's music is characterized by its spiritual depth, its emotional intensity, and its ability to inspire hope and uplift the human spirit.

Civil Rights Movement


The Civil Rights Movement was a period of major social activism in the United States from the 1950s to the 1960s. The movement aimed to end racial segregation and discrimination against African Americans. Key figures in the movement included Martin Luther King Jr., Rosa Parks, and Malcolm X. The movement used nonviolent resistance, such as boycotts, sit-ins, and marches, to achieve its goals. The Civil Rights Movement was successful in achieving many of its objectives, including the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Gospel Music


Gospel music is a genre of Christian music that originated in the African American community in the early 20th century. It is characterized by its strong vocals, its use of call and response, and its focus on themes of faith, hope, and redemption. Gospel music has been a major influence on other genres of music, including soul, R&B, and rock and roll. It is also an important part of African American culture and history.

Blues Music


Blues music is a genre of music that originated in the African American community in the late 19th century. It is characterized by its use of blue notes, its focus on themes of love, loss, and hardship, and its use of instruments such as the guitar, harmonica, and piano. Blues music has been a major influence on other genres of music, including rock and roll, jazz, and country. It is also an important part of African American culture and history.

Prince


Prince Rogers Nelson, known professionally as Prince, was an American singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, and record producer. He was a highly influential figure in popular music, known for his eclectic work that spanned genres such as pop, rock, funk, R&B, and soul. Prince was a virtuoso musician, known for his guitar skills, his distinctive vocal style, and his innovative use of synthesizers. He was also a prolific songwriter, writing and producing most of his own music. Prince's music is characterized by its energy, its sexuality, and its spiritual depth. He was a seven-time Grammy Award winner and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2017.

Aretha Franklin


Aretha Franklin was an American singer, songwriter, and pianist. She was one of the most influential singers of the 20th century, known for her powerful vocals, her soulful interpretations of classic songs, and her contributions to the development of soul music. Franklin was a 20-time Grammy Award winner and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1987. She was also a prominent figure in the Civil Rights Movement, having sung at many rallies and marches alongside Martin Luther King Jr. Franklin's music is characterized by its emotional depth, its spiritual intensity, and its ability to inspire hope and uplift the human spirit.

Curtis Mayfield


Curtis Mayfield was an American singer, songwriter, guitarist, and record producer. He was a highly influential figure in soul music, known for his work with the Impressions and his solo career. Mayfield was a gifted songwriter, known for his socially conscious lyrics and his ability to create catchy melodies. He was also a skilled guitarist, known for his distinctive style and his use of the electric guitar. Mayfield's music is characterized by its energy, its optimism, and its message of hope and empowerment. He was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1999.

Q&A

  • What was Mavis Staples' relationship with Mahalia Jackson like, and what was a moment that made it clear to Staples that Jackson was looking out for her?

    Mavis Staples describes Mahalia Jackson as being like an older sister to her. A defining moment in their relationship occurred when Staples was on the same gospel show as Jackson. After performing, Staples went outside to jump rope, but Jackson stopped her, expressing concern for her health and reminding her to take care of herself.

  • How did Mavis Staples' family become involved in the Civil Rights Movement, and what was a memorable moment that stands out to her in creating the sound of the movement?

    Mavis Staples' father, Pops Staples, met Martin Luther King Jr. and was inspired by his message. He told his family, "If he can preach it, we can sing it." A particularly memorable moment for Staples was when her family attended a service at Dexter Avenue Baptist Church in Montgomery, Alabama, where they met King and were invited to sing at a meeting that night. This led to the creation of their song "March Up Freedom's Highway," which became an anthem of the movement.

  • What does Mavis Staples mean when she says that gospel and blues are first cousins, and how does this relate to her own musical journey?

    Staples explains that gospel and blues share a common thread of expressing emotions and laying down burdens. She describes how her father played blues on the guitar while her family sang gospel, demonstrating the close connection between the two genres. This connection is reflected in Staples' own musical journey, as she transitioned from gospel to secular music while maintaining the emotional depth and spiritual resonance of her roots.

  • How did Mavis Staples' collaboration with Prince come about, and what was the process like?

    Staples received a call from her father, who told her that Prince wanted to sign her to his label. Initially hesitant, Staples expressed her desire for songs with substance. Prince's manager assured her that he would write adult songs for her. Their collaboration began with a meeting at a show Staples was performing in Los Angeles, where Prince was initially shy and reserved. Staples began writing letters to Prince to communicate with him, which eventually led to a close friendship and a successful musical partnership.

  • What drives Mavis Staples to continue making music, and what has it taught her?

    Staples views her voice as a gift from God and believes that not using it would be a disservice. She loves making music and finds it fulfilling. She also shares that she attempted to retire once but quickly realized that music was an integral part of her life and that she couldn't imagine not making it.

Show Notes

This week, the legendary singer and civil rights figure Mavis Staples is turning 85 and there's no sign of her slowing down: She released a new song, "Worthy," and a children's book, Bridges Instead of Walls: The Story of Mavis Staples.

Today, Mavis joins host Brittany Luse to share stories from her life: what it was like to be mentored by Mahalia Jackson, how she helped create the soundtrack for the Civil Rights movement, how she was spurned by the church then welcomed back, and what it was like to collaborate with Prince.

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