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Momiology (MUMMIFICATION) Part 1 with Kara Cooney & Salima Ikram

Momiology (MUMMIFICATION) Part 1 with Kara Cooney & Salima Ikram

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This episode delves into the world of "Mummyology," the study of mummification in ancient Egypt. It features interviews with two leading Egyptologists, Dr. Kara Cooney and Dr. Salima Ikram, who share their expertise on the history, techniques, and cultural significance of this ancient practice. The episode begins with introductions of the guests, highlighting their impressive credentials and contributions to the field. It then explores the relationship between mummies and sarcophagi, discussing the historical context of how mummies were stored and displayed. The guests also discuss the practice of removing mummies from their coffins for museum display and the impact this has on the study of coffins. The episode then delves into the personal and professional relationship between Dr. Cooney and Dr. Ikram, highlighting their shared passion for Egyptology and their experiences working together at the Dachshore necropolis. They discuss the importance of the site, the types of artifacts they studied, and the challenges they faced. The episode also explores the personal journeys of Dr. Cooney and Dr. Ikram into the field of Egyptology, sharing their early experiences with ancient Egypt and the events that sparked their interest. The episode then delves into the terminology surrounding mummies, exploring the origins of the word "mummy" and the ongoing debate about its appropriateness. The guests discuss the historical context of the term and the evolving perspectives on its use in modern scholarship and museum displays. The episode then explores the origins and development of mummification in ancient Egypt, discussing the theories surrounding the accidental discovery of naturally preserved bodies and the subsequent evolution of artificial mummification techniques. They also discuss the role of social status and religious beliefs in the development of mummification practices. The episode then delves into the practical aspects of mummification, explaining the process of preparing a body for burial. The guests discuss the use of natron, the removal of internal organs, the wrapping process, and the significance of amulets and other protective objects. The episode also explores the practice of brain removal during mummification, discussing the tools and techniques used. The guests also discuss the concept of "coffin vivification," the belief that a coffin becomes imbued with life and power when it contains a mummified body. The episode then discusses the methods used to study ancient Egyptian objects, including coffins and mummies. The guests explain the use of X-rays, CT scans, chemical analysis, and DNA testing to understand the materials, techniques, and historical context of these artifacts. The episode also explores the potential for DNA analysis to identify descendants of ancient Egyptian mummies. The guests discuss the challenges and limitations of this type of research and the recent case of Cheddar Man, a 10,000-year-old individual whose DNA was linked to a living descendant. The episode concludes with a preview of next week's episode, which will address listener questions about the smell of mummies, the ethics of research, and the experts' personal perspectives on death and mummification. The episode also encourages listeners to explore other Spooktober episodes and resources available on the Ologies website.

Outlines

00:00:00
Mummification: A Spooktober Exploration

This episode introduces the topic of "Mummyology," the study of mummification in ancient Egypt, and sets the stage for a Spooktober-themed discussion covering various aspects of death, burial, and ancient Egyptian practices. It introduces the guests, Dr. Kara Cooney and Dr. Salima Ikram, and their expertise in Egyptian history and death rituals.

00:00:14
Dr. Kara Cooney: Expert on Ancient Egyptian Death Rituals

This chapter introduces Dr. Kara Cooney, a professor of Egyptian art and architecture at UCLA, known for her expertise in Egyptian history and death rituals. She is the author of several books on the subject, including "Recycling for Death: Coffin Reuse in Ancient Egypt and the Thebian Royal Caches."

00:01:10
Dr. Salima Ikram: Egyptologist and Archaeologist

This chapter introduces Dr. Salima Ikram, a chiro-based professor of Egyptology and Archaeology at the American University in Cairo. She is also a visiting professor at Yale University and has authored several books on ancient Egypt, including "Mummy and Ancient Egypt: Equipping the Dead for Eternity."

00:01:44
Patron Questions and Episode Overview

This chapter acknowledges the patrons who submitted questions and provides a brief overview of the topics to be covered, including ancient tombs, mummification techniques, socioeconomic factors, animal mummies, and the debate around human sacrifice.

00:03:57
Mummies and Sarcophagi: A Historical Perspective

This chapter delves into the relationship between mummies and sarcophagi, exploring the historical context of how mummies were stored and displayed. The guests discuss the practice of removing mummies from their coffins for museum display and the impact this has on the study of coffins.

00:06:34
The Collaboration of Two Experts

This chapter explores the personal and professional relationship between Dr. Cooney and Dr. Ikram, highlighting their shared passion for Egyptology and their meeting at a dig site in Dachshore. They discuss their experiences working together and the unique challenges of field work in ancient Egypt.

00:08:36
Field Work at the Dachshore Necropolis

This chapter delves into the guests' experiences working at the Dachshore necropolis, a historically significant cemetery near Cairo. They discuss the importance of the site, the types of artifacts they studied, and the challenges they faced, including mice infestations and sand fleas.

00:11:11
The Journey to Egyptology: Personal Stories

This chapter explores the personal journeys of Dr. Cooney and Dr. Ikram into the field of Egyptology. They share their early experiences with ancient Egypt, including the books and events that sparked their interest and the impact of their first visits to Egypt.

Keywords

Mummification


The process of preserving a body after death, typically through desiccation, embalming, and wrapping. In ancient Egypt, mummification was a complex ritual practiced for both humans and animals, often reflecting social status and religious beliefs.

Coffin Vivification


The ancient Egyptian belief that a coffin becomes imbued with life and power when it contains a mummified body. This belief was rooted in the concept of the afterlife and the importance of preserving the deceased's spirit.

Natron


A naturally occurring salt mixture used in ancient Egypt for mummification. Natron, composed of sodium carbonate, sodium bicarbonate, and sodium chloride, was used to desiccate the body and prevent decomposition.

Amulet


A charm or ornament worn for protection against evil or misfortune. In ancient Egypt, amulets were often placed on mummies and in tombs to safeguard the deceased in the afterlife.

Isotope Analysis


A scientific technique used to determine the origin of ancient remains by analyzing the ratios of different isotopes in bone or other materials. This method can provide insights into migration patterns, diet, and other aspects of ancient life.

Cheddar Man


A 10,000-year-old individual whose remains were discovered in Cheddar Gorge, England. DNA analysis of Cheddar Man's remains led to the identification of a living descendant, Adrian Target, highlighting the potential for genetic connections across millennia.

Spooktober


A term used to describe the month of October, often associated with Halloween and other spooky themes. The podcast episode uses Spooktober as a framing device to explore topics related to death, burial, and the afterlife.

Mamiologist


A specialist in the study of mummies, particularly those from ancient Egypt. Mamiologists use a variety of scientific and historical methods to understand the practices, beliefs, and social contexts surrounding mummification.

Q&A

  • What is the difference between a mummy and a mummified person?

    The term "mummy" is often considered problematic because it objectifies the deceased. Some scholars prefer "mummified person" to emphasize the individual's humanity. However, the term "mummy" has historical significance and reflects the ancient Egyptian belief in transforming the body into a sacred object.

  • How did the practice of mummification develop in ancient Egypt?

    Mummification likely originated from the accidental discovery of naturally preserved bodies buried in sand. This led to the development of artificial mummification techniques, which became increasingly complex and expensive over time, reflecting social status and religious beliefs.

  • What are some of the methods used to study ancient Egyptian mummies and coffins?

    Modern researchers use a variety of techniques, including X-rays, CT scans, chemical analysis, and DNA testing, to understand the materials, techniques, and historical context of mummies and coffins. These methods allow for non-destructive study and provide valuable insights into ancient Egyptian practices and beliefs.

  • What is the significance of coffin vivification in ancient Egyptian beliefs?

    Coffin vivification was the belief that a coffin became imbued with life and power when it contained a mummified body. This belief was rooted in the concept of the afterlife and the importance of preserving the deceased's spirit. The coffin was seen as a sacred vessel that would protect and guide the deceased on their journey to the afterlife.

  • How does the study of mummies and coffins contribute to our understanding of ancient Egyptian society?

    Mummies and coffins provide valuable insights into ancient Egyptian social structures, religious beliefs, and daily life. They reveal information about social status, economic practices, artistic traditions, and the evolving beliefs surrounding death and the afterlife.

Show Notes

Linen wrapping. Expensive resins. Sarcophagi. Preserving for eternity – or until someone raids their tomb. It’s a brand-new Spooktober episode with not one but two guests: Dr. Salima Ikram is a professor of Egyptology and expert on mummification of both people and animals, and is joined by veteran guest from the Egyptology episode, professor and author Dr. Kara Cooney. The two chat about mummification techniques, how food studies lead into the pyramids, controversy over the word “mummy,” whiffing the dead, socioeconomic factors in mummification, animal mummies, lingering mysteries, field work, a house mouse, and more. Next week in Part 2 we’ll dive into more ethics of collections, human sacrifice, the people who ate mummified remains, paint colors, coffin engravings and the meaning of “magic.” 

Visit Dr. Cooney’s website and follow her on Instagram, X, YouTube, and Facebook

Get Kara’s latest book, Recycling for Death: Coffin Reuse in Ancient Egypt and the Theban Royal Caches, and browse her other books on Amazon or Bookshop.org

Subscribe to Kara’s Substack Ancient/Now

Visit Dr. Ikram’s website and follow her on Facebook

Get Salima’s latest book, Let a Cow-Skin Be Brought: Armour, Chariots and Other Leather Remains in Tutankhamun’s Tomb, and browse her other books on Amazon or Bookshop.org

Donations went to the Yellowhammer Fund and Doctors Without Borders

More episode sources and links

Smologies (short, classroom-safe) episodes

Other episodes you may enjoy: Egyptology (ANCIENT EGYPT), Taphology (GRAVESITES), Desairology (MORTUARY MAKE-UP), Thanatology (DEATH & DYING), Ambystomology (AXOLOTLS … AND LIMB REGROWTH?), Melaninology (SKIN/HAIR PIGMENT), Spooktober episodes of the past

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