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Ned B. Marsh and Heather S. Gregg – “Daoism and Design: Mapping the Conflict in Syria”

Ned B. Marsh and Heather S. Gregg – “Daoism and Design: Mapping the Conflict in Syria”

Update: 2023-05-16
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In contemporary military operations, some problems are so complex they do not give way to linear solutions but require problem management instead. Combining the fundamentals of Dao De Jing philosophy with the US military design process offers a new perspective to analyze complex security problems, devise management strategies, and plan military operations. Applying this new approach to the complex security environment in Syria allows for a nonlinear mapping of long-term goals and a new perspective on relationships between key actors, environmental factors that restrict changes in the security environment, and where planners should focus their attention.

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Keywords: design thinking, military planning, Dao, Syria, ISIS
Episode Transcript: "Daoism and Design: Mapping the Conflict in Syria"
Stephanie Crider (Host) 

You’re listening to Decisive Point, a US Army War College Press production focused on national security affairs. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the authors and are not necessarily those of the Department of the Army, the US Army War College, or any other agency of the US government.  

Joining me today are Colonel Ned Marsh and Dr. Heather Gregg, authors of “Daoism and Design: Mapping the Conflict in Syria” from the Spring 2023 issue of Parameters. Colonel Marsh is a US Army Special Forces officer and a current garrison commander within the Installation Management Command. Dr. Gregg is a professor of irregular warfare at the George C. Marshall Center for European Studies and is a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute. Welcome to Decisive Point, Ned. Welcome back, Heather. 

Dr. Heather S. Gregg 

It's great to be here. 

COL Ned B. Marsh 

Thanks for having us on. 

Host 

Your work says combining the fundamentals of Daoist philosophy from the ancient literary work of the Tao Te Ching with the US military design process offers a new perspective with which to analyze problems, devise management strategies, and plan military operations. Tell me more. How so? 

Marsh 

The Dao’s what we see as an alternative perspective to a Western mindset. The Western mindset tends to see life as linear, objective-based, a realm of cause and effect. Instead, the Dao sees life as a constant flow of events with some things that are in our control and most that are out of our control. The philosophy emphasizes the continuous nature of being that people flow through life around obstacles like water would around a stone in a river. I think the simplest summary is that we should worry about the things we can control and not worry about the things that we cannot.  

There's four fundamentals. The first is that there's no permanent reality. So, our reality is an endless continuous stream of interactive situations. The second is that every event is the result of the interaction of all the preceding events. It's never-ending. It's a ceaseless development of new context. And this limits the value of concepts such as linearity, cause and effect, and prediction. Third is that we only see life from the perspective that we are in it. We're the water in the river. We're not standing on the shore looking at the water. Those fundamentals, they describe the reality. The fourth describes how we fit into it. The good news is that we have agency. Our path isn't predestined. Our actions can shape the future and influence our environment. So, we recognize these realities. And then we cultivate ourselves, our organizations, and our environments to foster success. We can create emergent opportunities, and we can be successful. 

Host 

Heather, did you want to weigh in on this too? 

Gregg 

Thinking in these terms is particularly useful for complex problem management. So many of the problems that we see in foreign policy today are so complex...
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Ned B. Marsh and Heather S. Gregg – “Daoism and Design: Mapping the Conflict in Syria”

Ned B. Marsh and Heather S. Gregg – “Daoism and Design: Mapping the Conflict in Syria”

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