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Nothing worse, you get to the middle and it's dry...

Nothing worse, you get to the middle and it's dry...

Update: 2025-09-09
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On this latest episode of Higher Ed Breakfast Club, we’re joined by longtime student affairs pros and cinnamon roll philosophers Alex Belisario and Emily Sandoval for a rich and ridiculous ride through:


🥐 Spam fried rice and bruléed bananas

📍 30 years in Santa Cruz

📚 Pivoting from housing to policy

👠 The death of heels post-pandemic

💡 And why climbing the ladder isn’t always the move


And yes, we absolutely rate cinnamon rolls using a real rubric.

(Gooey center, crispy squishiness ratio, icing density. We did the work.)


🎙️ “Nothing worse — you get to the middle and it’s dry.”

Trust us. It applies to more than breakfast.


#HigherEdBreakfastClub #StudentAffairs #CareerPivot #Burnout #BreakfastWisdom #CinnamonRollLogic

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Nothing worse, you get to the middle and it's dry...

Nothing worse, you get to the middle and it's dry...

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