In this podcast Anders Hove talks with Muyi Yang about the geopolitical implications of the energy transition for China in Southeast Asia, and with Mohua Mukherjee about the changing geopolitics of energy between China and India.

Yang, who is Associate Director of Clean Energy at the Asia Society Policy Institute, discusses the challenges Southeast Asia faces in transitioning away from fossil fuels, particularly in the area of finance, where the region is likely to seek support from both China and traditional sources of finance in the U.S., Europe, Australia and Japan. Yang believes that Southeast Asia’s clean energy transition provides opportunities for collaboration among countries in the region and China and the West, and he provides specific examples of multilateral cooperation in the podcast. Mukherjee, Senior Research Fellow at OIES, sees new elements of both competition and cooperation emerging between India and China, but on balance is also optimistic that the competitive aspects are manageable while the impetus for cooperation on climate diplomacy and clean energy manufacturing will spur closer relations and ultimately benefit the Indian economy and energy transition.

This podcast is the fourth in a series on China and the geopolitics of energy. Yang’s article, ‘Navigating geopolitical complexity through collective action on clean energy transition in South-East Asia,’ and Mukherjee’s article ‘Complexities in the energy sector relationship between India and China in 2023’ are available in the Oxford Energy Forum Issue 137 on our website.

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