On Dwarkesh Patel's Second Interview With Ilya Sutskever
Update: 2025-12-03
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Podcast episode for On Dwarkesh Patel’s Second Interview With Ilya Sutskever.
* 00:00 - Introduction
* 01:47 - Table of Contents
* 02:19 - Explaining Model Jaggedness
* 03:58 - Emotions and value functions
* 05:36 - What are we scaling?
* 06:47 - Why humans generalize better than models
* 08:10 - Straight-shooting superintelligence
* 09:57 - SSI’s model will learn from deployment
* 10:59 - Alignment
* 20:03 - “We are squarely an age of research company”
* 25:15 - Research taste
* 27:57 - Bonus Coverage: Dwarkesh Patel on AI Progress These Days
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