In this episode, Paul and Matt dive into one of the most misunderstood durable skills: organization. It’s not just about tidy desks or color-coded inboxes—it’s the human ability to make sense of the world. They explore why some of us are natural filers while others are pilers, how AI tools are reshaping our need for structure, and what “just right” organization looks like in modern work.

From ancient libraries to Gmail, and from personal comfort to shared systems, this conversation uncovers why organization still matters—just for very different reasons than it used to.

Five Key Learnings:

• Organization is how humans make sense of complexity—whether in books, ideas, or digital clutter.
• Technology doesn’t remove the need for organization; it changes why we organize.
• Most people are natural pilers (about 80%), and forcing the opposite rarely works.
• The right level of organization is personal—it depends on your psychology, context, and type of work.
• A simple “organization audit” helps you adapt your habits to today’s tools and realities.

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