Casey and Grace chat with Luke S., a trans male teen. He's a soon-to-be high school grad who's enrolling in college this fall — and, he's an all-around rock star.

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Feeling lost in recent conversations about gender?

"Over the Binary: Conversations About Gender with Gender Therapists" is the place to seek education and answers for both allies and LGBTQ+ community members alike. Hosted by therapists Casey Weitzman, LMFT (she/her) and Grace O'Connor, LMFT (she/her) of Gender Wellness of Los Angeles, Casey and Grace are joined by a variety of experts to discuss the most pertinent topics related to transgender, non-binary, and queer identities in today's America.

Over the Binary can be streamed on all your favorite podcast platforms including Spotify, Audible, and Apple Podcasts. Your journey to your most authentic self starts here.