Jason and Casey talk about yet another battle royale game 'Apex Legends' and discuss how it dominated everyones life from launch. They also discuss Bioware's new IP 'Anthem' and how it's been poorly received since launch. And Casey serves himself up a big slice of humble pie as he realizes to jump on the hate train without giving it a try.

(Update since the episode came out: Anthem is still not great and pretty bare bones after your 10ish hours of fun.)

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