"Imagine a job where you clean an HVAC system - you're up there on your hands and knees, crawling through the prison innards and all of a sudden you get a panic attack. I was stuck in there and non-responsive. I thought I had a stroke."

Co-hosts, Max & Hec, discuss growing up in NYC at the height of the crack epidemic in the 1980's and unpack what led to their crimes, eventual incarceration, and the impact it still has on them and their families.