I sat down with Dana Kippel - “Plasma Girl” - and wow. This one cracked reality wide open.

I invited Dana on to unpack her 700-page beast of a book, A New Force: Plasma, Consciousness, and the New Human Potential. What we ended up exploring felt like the owner’s manual for being human right now.

✨ Plasma isn’t just “the 4th state.” It’s the living, intelligent fabric reality is printed on—the clay—and our consciousness is the sculptor.

🎮 We’re not stuck. The “now” can feel deterministic, but healing + choice = new rendered levels. (Think video game: current map fixed, next map still loading.)

🌱 It’s not a cold “simulation.” It’s a living simulator—an organic training ground we co-create with our higher, multidimensional selves.

🔥 Trauma is alchemy. Fear projects “monsters” onto plasma; healing turns them into teachers. Forgiveness literally cuts energetic cords. Boss battles end when we learn the lesson.

🤖 AI ≠ consciousness. It mirrors us—like “informational beings” do. Intention matters more than machinery.

🌀 We live in nested plasmoid bubbles—biofield → Earth’s magnetosphere → heliosphere. Your toroidal field feels first, thinks second. (Qigong/Reiki aren’t “woo”—they’re user interfaces.)

🔒 Some tech/data has been gatekept: observer effects and consciousness mess with instruments. But the tide is turning. Pure intention unlocks more than force ever will.

🐬 Plasma orbs, “ether dolphins,” ancestors, future humans—it’s all interface-able when you’re coherent and grounded.

💎 The future of tech? Soft/organic—plasma, crystals, resonance—plus inner tech: coherence, presence, love.

🌌 I’ve had enough experiences to know reality is editable. This convo gave me language and a framework: heal the field, harmonize with plasma, and the world responds. Not as fantasy—as physics we’re just relearning.

Favorite mic-drop moments

“Plasma is the feminine clay; consciousness is the masculine seed. Together they birth reality—the divine child.”

“We dance free will inside a bubble of destiny.”

“Stop trying to ‘save’ the planet. Get out of her way.”

“Trauma, integrated, becomes a superpower.”

CONNECT with Jordan at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.digijordan.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | New episodes out every Tuesday & Thursday | Join us every Saturday night at 9pm central on our YouTube for a LIVE recap of the week's episodes and Q&A :)

SpectreVision Radio is a bespoke podcast network at the intersection between the arts and the uncanny, featuring a tapestry of shows exploring creativity, the esoteric, and the unknown. We’re a community for creators and fans vibrating around common curiosities, shared interests and persistent passions.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices