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Podcast 10: Redeeming Dogs – Understanding and Enjoying Your Pet with Certified Dog Trainer Tod McVicker

Podcast 10: Redeeming Dogs – Understanding and Enjoying Your Pet with Certified Dog Trainer Tod McVicker

Update: 2016-04-15
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Do you have difficulty enjoying your dog and keeping its behavior under control? How can we train our dogs with respect, understanding and some kindness?




In this episode, Certified Dog Trainer Tod McVicker reveals the three things that matter most to dogs, and how we can effectively co-exist with them (without being a jerk).







Tod is a certified dog trainer, and has been training dogs professionally for ten years. He has served on the board of directors for the International Association of Canine Professionals (IACP), and is currently one of their ambassadors.



I asked Tod to visit with us, because I know that many of you have dogs and love your dogs, but also have some difficulty in controlling their behavior. If that sounds like you, then Tod is your guy, and in this podcast he shares some insights and hard-won experience that’ll help us.


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Tod came to our home and trained our dog a few years ago, and after just one meeting, he had all of us eating out of his hand.



He really does train PEOPLE how to effectively co-exist with their dogs — teaches them the appropriate expectations to have of themselves and their animals, helps clients understand more about the breed they’ve chosen, and he can even recommend a specific breed for your lifestyle. Here’s a transcript of my conversation with Tod.




What’s the most common dog training goal or problem that you see?



“My dog is jumping on me, he won’t walk on the leash, he isn’t obeying me” — all this boils down to, “I’m not important to the dog. The dog isn’t mindful of me.”



In these cases, you’ve got to become important to the dog. Dogs are amazing creatures, but we have to remember that they aren’t people, and learn what IS important to them. If we are in control of what’s important to them, then we will become important to them.



— Being important to your dog and your dog loving you are not the same thing. —


Your dog can love you to pieces, but not look to you for information. Your dog can look to you for information and not feel great about you. What we want is a dog that loves us and looks to us for information — who wants to engage with us, and does what we want it to do



Here Tod notes that the ideas he shares in this podcast are not all his own original ideas, but ideas that he’s collected throughout his education and experience learning from many other professional dog trainers.



Three things that are important to dogs 


1. Who picks what activities we’re going to do, and when those activities stop and start




There aren’t bad activities, only bad initiators. It’s a great idea for you to initiate a game of fetch, but if you’re on the couch watching TV and the dog’s over there hitting you with a ball, it’s not a great idea for you to engage in that.



A great litmus test is to take the dog out of the equation and put an adult person in its place. If an adult person was sitting next to you and poking you or demanding you rub their back or something like that, would it be considered cute or rude? If it’s considered rude, then we need to treat it as a rude interaction. 


— I want to teach people to ask for some self respect and some space for themselves. —


What I want is a respectful relationship with the dog. I want to treat them with respect, and for them to treat me with respect too. Most of the dogs I meet are grownups — once a dog is one and a half or two years old, it’s an adult — so we should behave with each other as adults.



What’s the main thing people do incorrectly with their dogs? 



In terms of activities, they let the dog direct the activities. For instance, I’m on a walk and the dog’s out in front of me and the dog decides, “We’re going to go to the left,” and pulls me along. Then the dog decides, “Oh this is a great tree for me to stop and read the pee-mail.” So the dog starts to smell, and I wait, and when the dog decides he’s done, he drags me along the road.



So the dog decided where we were going, how long we were staying, and kind of orchestrated that whole walk. The dog never looked at me, he had his back to me to whole time. He was looking forward and trying to make decisions about what’s happening next.



Just changing that to where I’m in front, deciding where we’re going to go, and when I’d like to stop, and when I’d like to move —that’s a huge relationship change.



— Now I am important — I’m deciding the activity. —



2. Dogs care about space




They are territorial creatures, and in the wild they would be checking the perimeter of their territory to see if strange predators are coming in. They’re very concerned with who is coming and going, because that effects their food supply and their ability to live. If a bunch of predators push in, then there’s pressure for resources. So dogs care about space on the larger scale.



But they also care about space on a smaller scale.  If I’m laying in the best spot and you come up and want that spot, do I have to move for you? Or do you move for me? Things like that matter to dogs.



If I jump on you and you move backwards and give me space, that’s a whole different message than if I jump on you and you move forward and take space from me. If you’re not manipulating space or having insight about space as you’re working with your dog, there are going to be lots of decisions that — to the dog’s mind — need to be made, and you’re not making them.



The dog will make those for you. The dog thinks, “They don’t really care. Or they’re oblivious. So I’ll make the decisions about space or activities.”


3. Dogs care about resources



This could be food, a toy or affection. Just like anybody else with a resource, the scarcer the resource is, the more it’s worth. So if you’re trying to give me a liver snap and I’m laying in a pile of liver snaps, it doesn’t really matter much. We want to control resources.



People kind of get that. They say, “If you’ll sit, I’ll give you a treat. If you are good I’ll pet you.” But control over resources is really important to the dog, and if we don’t control them when the dog thinks they need to be controlled, then we cede that control to the dog.



What I see a lot is that people have a romanticized ideal in their head: “I’m going to bring this dog into my home and we’re going to co-exist — you’re going to hang around and I’m going to hang around, and every once in a while something’s going to become important to me, and I’m going to have to tell you do something, but since I’m fair about not asking you to do many things, you’ll abide by wishes.”



But what the dog sees is: “There are important decisions that need to be made all day around here, and you don’t want to make any of them. I fact, you abdicate and make ME made them. And that can me feel aggressive or fearful or overwhelmed. And so if you make me those decisions all day, then when something important comes up, well guess what. I’m still going to make those decisions, human, because you don’t have any practice. You’re not qualified for the job.”



So what we need to do is live with our dogs in such a way that proves we know what’s important to them, that we have an opinion, we’d like to give input. Then when important things come up, the dog will look to you to ask, “Is this okay? Can I go there? Is it alright if I have this?” We want that kind of relationship.



Watch videos on Tod’s YouTube channel for some terrific examples of how he teaches this.



We’ve got to have engagement. That means you’re interested in what I have to say. Or you believe I have a controlling interest in space or resources. I don’t want to lord over my dog. You won’t see me doing Alpha roles.


— I’m not trying to dominate the dog. I want to be a partner with the dog, but I want to be senior partner. —


I want to make sure the dog gets that full respect. When a dog does something I like, I say “thank you”. You can be a leader without being a jerk. You can be a nice leader.



Is there one specific thing that’s the most difficult for dogs to learn?



Behavior is a habit, a repetition, so once a groove gets cut with repetition over the years, that can be a hard habit to reroute. It’s like a big river that runs through a valley. The longer that river has run, the deeper that gully is, the harder it is to move the river.



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Podcast 10: Redeeming Dogs – Understanding and Enjoying Your Pet with Certified Dog Trainer Tod McVicker

Podcast 10: Redeeming Dogs – Understanding and Enjoying Your Pet with Certified Dog Trainer Tod McVicker

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