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QAV America 21 – MEOH: Diving Deep into the Methanol Market

QAV America 21 – MEOH: Diving Deep into the Methanol Market

Update: 2025-09-15
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We discuss the latest U.S. economic slowdown, then pivot to a detailed portfolio update (US portfolio vs S&P 500). After a rapid recap of recent stock picks — from ZEPP to ZIM — we dive into a comprehensive analysis of Methanex (MEOH): its global footprint, methanol market dynamics, e-methanol shipping prospects, the Geismar 3 outage governance risk, and key valuation metrics.


Timestamps


00:03:00 – US Portfolio Update: +7.6% in 30 days vs S&P 500 +1.65%; since inception +70.4% vs S&P 500 +46%  

00:06:00 – Deep Dive on Methanex (MEOH)






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[00:00:00 ]


Cameron: Welcome back to QAV America, Tony. This is episode 21. How are you?


Tony Kynaston: I am well, thank you. Father’s Day celebrated


Cameron: good.


Tony Kynaston: Hope everyone out there did the same.


Cameron: No, they’re Americans, Tony, they celebrate Father’s Day in a completely different time of year to us. Mm.


Tony Kynaston: did. Anyway. I was gonna segue that into hope they all got their small packages, but, um, can’t


Cameron: They’re small packages,


Tony Kynaston: Day gifts from Australia, which have been held up.


Cameron: Oh, that’s a reference to the fact that Australia Post has stopped shipping packages to the United States because of the de minimis ch rule changes. Uh, we were just talking on our Australian podcast about the, uh, state of the economy in the US second lot of weak jobs, job numbers has just come through, and as I pointed out in the last episode, all of the reasons that we’ve been [00:01:00 ] talking about.


Over the last, uh, six months or so on this show, according to the failing New York Times, as the president likes to refer to it, analysts offered a variety of explanations for the slowdown the president’s tariffs on nearly all imports have driven up, driven up costs for companies and prices for consumers.


Mr. Trump’s immigration crackdown has made it harder for many businesses to find workers while, while simultaneously reducing the need for them because they now have fewer customers. The federal government has cut jobs directly and canceled grants and contracts that have bled into the private sector.


The uncertainty surrounding Mr. Trump’s ever shifting policies has made corporate executives more cautious about hiring and investing. So. You know, who would’ve guessed that, uh, putting Donald Trump back in the White House would lead to chaos and uncertainty? Tony? No, certainly not me. I, that was not on my bingo list.


I thought, here’s a man who’s calm and [00:02:00 ] most stable genius I’ve ever seen. So it’s deeply surprising to me. What about you?


Tony Kynaston: Yeah, surprising, surprising to all the Republicans, I would’ve thought. Who, uh, Um, yeah, but I, well first of all, I didn’t access the New York Times ’cause it’s a paywall and I’m not gonna sign up to the New York Times. with the Wall Street Journal,


Cameron: What do they have to say?


Tony Kynaston: probably the


Cameron: Right?


Tony Kynaston: Reprinted, uh, anyway.


Cameron: uh, as I, I’m gonna do a pulled pork this week on an interesting company, meo. They’re a, uh, methanol, well, they’re the 800 pound gorilla in the methanol space, which is interesting ’cause I know or new before this. Nothing about methanol. But before I do that, I just want to. Give a portfolio, uh, performance update.


Our US portfolio is up about 7.6% in the last 30 days versus the s and p 500, which is up [00:03:00 ] 1.65%. Uh, since inception, which is, uh, September, 2023, our US portfolio is up 70. 4% versus the s and p 500, up 46%. Year to date though we are still struggling. We’re down 7.2% year to date calendar, year to date versus 10.43 for the s and p because of some of Mr.


Trump’s policies that tanked our portfolio at the beginning of the year, but over a one year timeframe. We are up 31% versus 20% for the s and p 500. So despite having a rough start to the year, uh, we’re still looking pretty. Um, I, I’ll also just, uh, mention the companies that I’ve done pulled Porks on over the last, uh, 20 episodes on this show.


Um. Zap in order of best stories, [00:04:00 ] zap the smart Chinese smartwatch company that I covered on the 11th of July is now up 1511% since then. It’s just not slowing down. It is down 4% today. Um, but it’s just not slowing down. Gray media is up 40%. Titan machinery is up 11% since we talked about it. Precision Drilling is up 18%.


Orx Corporation up 27 IHS holding up 37. Ford is up eight since we talked about it. Chemex is up, uh, 68%. Dan aos is up 16 Canadian. Imperial Bank of Commerce is up 23%. Jackson Financial, up 16%. Costco’s up five. Sasol is up 43% since I talked about it in July.


I said they were a dirty, dirty, dirty business they were in and they’re up 43%. Bausch Health Companies is up [00:05:00 ] 16%. Seneca Foods is up nine. Kimball Electronics is up seven Sno that I talked about last week though is down 2% since last week. So there you go. Then there’s also Zim, uh, which is down 26% since we talked about it back in March and, and now Chile is down 10%, but the rest of them doing quite well.


Well, with that out of the way, let me, let me talk to you a tale of Meow, Tony. Meow, MEOH. There’s the ticket code for Methanex. I’m calling it Meow though. We’re talking about the world’s biggest methanol producer. That’s who these guys are. Headquarters in Vancouver. Plants all over the map. Louisiana, Canada, Chile, New Zealand, Trinidad, and [00:06:00 ] Egypt.


But I’m gonna preface this as I did last week by saying that the underlying commodity for Metanx, which is methanol, is a Josephine. So for new listeners, we chart underlying commodities on a three point trend line, looking at month end prices over a five year graph, and when a. Price has been in decline.


We classify it as a Josephine. It could also be a cell, but this isn’t a cell. It’s not below its cell line. It’s above the cell line below the byline, so it’s a Josephine, so we wouldn’t, what that means is, regardless of the numbers, I’m gonna talk you through with Methanex today. We wouldn’t buy it. We’re not, we, we don’t have any room in our portfolio anyway, but if, if, if we did, we wouldn’t buy it until the underlying commodity gets back into a buy territory.


Because we’ve learned from experience that prices tend to follow the underlying commodity price, which makes sense.


Tony Kynaston: [00:07:00 ] methanol used for? Cam,


Cameron: Tony, I’m glad you asked. Thank you for asking. Tony


Tony Kynaston: you are


Cameron: Methanol’s used for pretty much everything. It’s the Lego of the chemical world. It’s used in millions and millions of different things, including making crystal meth as we all learned from breaking bad. Um, it’s precursor to methyl a methyl lamine.


Methyl lamine, I think is what they had to hijack trucks, uh, or trains in the desert, uh, in wherever they were. New, New Mexico, new something. Anyway, it methanol is the simplest alcohol, CH three. Ohh. It’s a clear liquid. It burns cleanly, mixes with almost anything mostly made from natural gas methane. Then you catalyze it into.


Methanol. It’s used in plastics, paints, adhesives, resins. It’s blended into fuels, biodiesel, [00:08:00 ] gasoline, and the big future for it is something called e methanol, which is formed from CO2 and green hydrogen, and it’s a low carbon marine fuel. All those tankers moving. Well, you know, but based on President Trump’s tariffs, we won’t have to worry about shipping stuff around countries anymore ’cause it’ll all be made in America by, not by immigrants though, by good, good Americans, we’ll be working factories for $1 a day and happy.


That they have a job that hasn’t been taken by a robot or AI yet. But basically this is the, it’s the Lego brick of the chemical world. Cheap, versatile, snaps into more complex stuff, and.


Tony Kynaston: bare feet.


Cameron: And Well, I was gonna say, light Legos. Don’t eat it because it’s highly, highly toxic and can kill you. So [00:09:00 ] don’t get it in your eyes.


Don’t breathe it in, don’t get anywhere near it in its raw state, and that’s one of the problems as we’ll see. But methane X-M-E-O-H is the world’s largest methanol producer, as I said. They not only produce it, they run their own fleet of tankers, which is good bit of vertical integration, probably also why they want to have their, uh, own shipping product, fuel product, marine product, and it.


It also means they can shift supply

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QAV America 21 – MEOH: Diving Deep into the Methanol Market

QAV America 21 – MEOH: Diving Deep into the Methanol Market

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