Rad LIVE! (Classic)
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This podcast episode offers a comprehensive review of the 1986 BMX film "Rad," exploring its cult status, plot intricacies, character portrayals, and memorable stunts. The hosts and audience engage in a lively discussion, highlighting the film's unique "bike dancing" sequences, questionable plot points like constant water exposure and unrealistic paper routes, and the '80s tropes present in parental behavior and fashion. They also delve into the meaning of BMX, personal desires for BMX bikes, and the director Hal Needham's stunt background. The discussion touches upon the film's Rotten Tomatoes scores, the contrast between critical and audience reception, and the peculiar absence of a top female racer. Audience members contribute through "Second Opinions," sharing their enthusiastic reviews, costume cosplay, and insights into the cast and production. Despite some criticisms regarding acting, stunts, and narrative logic, the film is ultimately celebrated for its colorful visuals, energetic performances, and undeniable place in cult cinema history.
Outlines
Introduction and The Elusive "Rad"
The podcast kicks off with energetic music and introductions, setting a lively tone for a discussion about the cult classic BMX movie "Rad." Hosts express frustration over its lack of easy accessibility and welcome co-host Jason Manzuchus. They compare it to "BMX Bandits" and note its cult status, evidenced by fan mail and merchandise, while reiterating the difficulty in finding the film.
"Rad's" Uniqueness and Critical Reception
Co-host June Diane Raphael joins as the discussion shifts to unconventional viewing methods for "Rad." The hosts recall other bicycle movies but emphasize "Rad's" uniqueness as a purely bicycle-centric film. They highlight the stark contrast between its 0% critics' score and 91% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
BMX Origins and Childhood Dreams
The hosts break down "BMX" as Bicycle Motocross and discuss its origins. They share personal anecdotes about their childhood desires for BMX bikes, detailing saving efforts and aspirational brands. Director Hal Needham's stunt background is mentioned, with mild disappointment expressed regarding the stunts in "Rad."
Memorable Scenes: Bike Dancing, Water, and Stunts
The "bike dancing" sequences are highlighted as electric and unique, especially the town-wide dance. Humorous observations are made about the characters' constant immersion in water, often in strange locations. Stunts are revisited, with some deemed visually unappealing.
Chicago Vibe, BMX Presentation, and Expression
The hosts comment on the Chicago audience's energy and express feeling "turned off" by the film's embarrassing presentation of BMX riders. A comparison is drawn between breakdancing and BMX bike dancing, debating their validity as self-expression and considering socioeconomic factors.
Cinematography and Plot Oddities
Cinematography issues, particularly inconsistent lighting, are criticized. The realism of the paperboy's evening route and delivery times is questioned, along with his unconventional, seemingly random delivery method. '80s movie tropes, like harsh parental behavior, are discussed.
Fashion, Twins, and '80s Tropes
The hosts discuss the film's fashion, including the protagonist's bandana and resemblance to Scott Baio. They express fascination with the twins' '80s outfits, comparing them to cartoon villains and noting the era's broader obsession with twins. The twins' motivations and the lack of clear conflict are analyzed.
Out-of-Towners, Town Perception, and BMX Coolness
The "out-of-towner" dynamic is explored, contrasting the characters' perception of the town with its appearance. The presence of BMX bikes is suggested as an indicator of a town's coolness. The hosts admit to losing track of interpersonal relationships and town politics due to the convoluted plot.
The "Hell Track" Race and its Announcer
The town's ambition to host a major BMX event, the "hell track race," is discussed. The race itself is deemed passable, with criticism directed at the announcer's ineffective narration. Qualifying races are considered more interesting than the main event.
Racer Introductions and Age Discrepancies
The lengthy and uninteresting introduction of "hell track" racers is described. Hosts read out racer names and team affiliations, noting geographical diversity and '80s riders. A common '80s film trope of actors appearing older than their teenage characters is observed.
Racer Introductions, Hometown Pride, and Authenticity Questions
Racer introductions continue with brand mentions. One host expresses excitement recognizing twin racers from their hometown, Long Island, leading to questions about their authenticity. Awkward rider introductions, filmed in direct sunlight, are critiqued.
Production Issues: Hell Track Wall and Injuries
A significant production issue is revealed: the "hell track" wall was built too high, delaying filming. The potential for serious stunt-related injuries is discussed, with an instance of a broken leg mentioned.
BMX Expertise, Fandom, and Documentary Failure
Hosts playfully claim "BMX expertise" and question audience recognition of racers. They question audience motivations and note the dedication of "Rad" fans, expressing disappointment over a failed crowdfunded documentary. A new "hell track" is mentioned as being built.
Critiques of Racing and Racer Differentiation
The film's focus on excluding "cruisers" is criticized, suggesting energy could have been better used on obstacles. The repetitive nature of BMX racing lacks variation. The film's portrayal of falling and getting back up is noted, as is the choice riders have to go around obstacles.
Cruz's Strengths and the Climax
A lack of differentiation among racers, including the protagonist Cruz, is a key criticism. However, Cruz's exceptional "bike dancing" skills are acknowledged as his true talent. The hosts propose the dance sequence should have been the movie's climax.
Winning Affection and Disappointing Race Finish
The hosts suggest Cruz should have won affection through dance moves, not just racing. The race finish is deemed disappointing, with the lead rider waiting for Cruz. The hero's decision to stop and wait is questioned as poor racing strategy.
Bart Conner's Potential Sabotage and Needham's Films
A theory suggests Bart Conner intentionally lost the race. The hosts circle back to Hal Needham's family and the cop's dynamic, comparing it to "Smokey and the Bandit."
Female Racer's Absence and Post-Dance Interactions
The absence of the number one female BMX biker from the main race is questioned, with her explanation deemed bizarre. Post-dance interactions reveal a lack of chemistry between Cruz and Lori.
"Ass Slide" Day, Love, and Cruz's Dialogue
The day of the "ass slide" is identified. Themes of love are discussed, but interactions, particularly with the "town cake lady," are found unsettling. Cruz's dialogue is described as uninspired, comparing him to a "sack of potatoes."
Lori Loughlin's Career and Agelessness
Lori Loughlin's career trajectory is discussed, noting her consistent portrayal of characters superior to male counterparts. She and John Stamos are humorously called "vampires" for their ageless appearance.
Lori Loughlin's Stunts and Lack of Female Riders
Lori Loughlin's appearance on a bike is noted, but the circumstances are questioned. Her explanation of riding for trophies is discussed. The film's use of "stunt-wigging" and the apparent lack of female riders for her stunts are criticized as unbelievable.
Identifying the Male Stunt Rider
The hosts definitively state that a male stunt rider was used for certain scenes, based on visual cues like broad shoulders. They point out Cruz's water stunt, contrasting it with Lori Loughlin's.
"BMX Vampire" Theory and Character Removal
A humorous theory suggests Lori Loughlin transforms into a man when riding. Concern is raised that not only was a stunt double used, but Lori Loughlin's character was removed from being a rider, deemed disturbing.
Town Politics, Cop's Speech, and Dr. Eggman Comparison
Confusing town politics and the cop's nonsensical speech are discussed. The cop's appearance is compared to Dr. Eggman from Sonic. The cop-chasing dynamic is linked to Needham's other films.
The Cop's Role: Friend or Foe?
A debate arises about the cop's role: is he there to bust the kids or race them? The audience is polled, revealing a division in interpretation. One host jokingly calls the audience "idiots" based on their response.
Script Logic and "Flawless Classic Story Time"
The hosts argue the cop's actions only make sense as a turn, implying a flawed script. They sarcastically refer to the movie as "flawless classic story time."
Cop's Motivation: Service, Protection, and "Hell Track"
The cop's motivation is proposed as seeing potential in the kids and wanting to put the town on the map. His ultimate goal is stated as bringing "Hell Track" home. A humorous suggestion is made to reboot "Rad" with the cop as Dr. Eggman.
Revealing the Cop's True Intentions
The hosts discuss the scene where the cop's true intentions are revealed, questioning audience shock value. They posit that BMX riders and police are natural enemies, and the cop's job is law enforcement.
The Cop's Moral Stand and Sunglasses Metaphor
The cop's actions are described as a moral stand. Removing his sunglasses is identified as a symbolic moment, revealing his true self. Hosts challenge Paul Thomas Anderson to direct better than the cop's performance.
The Cop's Nonsensical Speech and Interpretations
The cop's speech is reiterated as nonsensical, allowing for multiple interpretations. A reference is made to a "Liz Estrada" monologue. The cop's dramatic stage walk is described.
"I Thought I Heard It All" and Sunglasses Re-evaluation
The quote "I thought I heard it all, till now" expresses surprise. Doubt arises about whether the cop actually removed his sunglasses. The cop expresses his history of chasing the kids but acknowledges their special achievement.
Dollars vs. Hope and Missed Opportunities
The cop criticizes the focus on money, stating it kills hope. He suggests people will have to "live with" missed opportunities. The cop's apology and metaphorical removal of sunglasses are discussed.
Acting Advice and "Have to Live With It" Speech
Advice is given to actors to use monologues from "Miami Connection" or "Rad." The impact of the cop's speech, emphasizing "have to live with it," is highlighted.
Funding Competition and T-Shirt Capital
The discussion clarifies that money was needed for Cruz's competition. Questions arise about the initial capital for T-shirts. The "evil man" is identified as working for Mongoose.
Mongoose Investment and Bart Conner's Loss
A Mongoose executive invested millions, anticipating Cruz's win. The scenario where Bart Conner wins is discussed, implying he needs Cruz to win. Cruz Crew and his sister are mentioned.
Cruz Crew, Sister's Cuteness, and T-Shirt Funding
Cruz Crew and his sister are mentioned, with the sister described as "so cute." The creation of $10,000 worth of T-shirts is noted, with qualifying races generating the funds.
Sponsorship Hurdles and Rule Changes
Cruz's decision to use the $10,000 for sponsorship is highlighted as the next challenge. The film's plot device of adding new rules is criticized. Cruz invested the $10,000 into T-shirts, hoping to double his money.
Helmet Painting, Shirt Creation, and School Outfits
The $10,000 was also used for painting Cruz's helmet and creating a shirt. The elaborate school community outfits for Cruz are recalled as lackluster. A single "nerd" is depicted doing all the homework.
Coloring T-Shirts and Dyeing Methods
The activity of coloring T-shirts at school is remembered. The process of dyeing white T-shirts red is mentioned as a common, cost-effective method. The missed opportunity for tie-dye uniforms is lamented.
Homework Hand-off and Punished Smart Kids
Homework is handed off to a student responsible for all subjects. A recurring theme in '80s movies where smart kids are punished for their intelligence is observed.
Terrible Parental Behavior and Early Morning Profanity
Parents in '80s movies often treated children poorly. An example of a mother's harsh words and early morning profanity is noted, reflecting the era's parenting. Nostalgia for public parental yelling is expressed.
Original Title: "Balls Out" and Oscar Humor
The movie's original title, "Balls Out," is revealed, with a clip played. The hosts humorously suggest it would have won Oscars annually if retained. The cop's motivation is clarified as doing his job until he couldn't tolerate the situation.
Talia Shire's Role and "Rocky" Connection
Talia Shire's involvement is discussed, suggesting she took the part after "Rocky" as a good role, despite its limited impact. Her performance is acknowledged as not bad, but ultimately insignificant.
Schwartzman-Coppola Family Production
The film is identified as a Schwartzman-Coppola family production, noting producer involvement. Talia Shire's involvement is deemed sensible given the family connection.
Missed Opportunity for Nicolas Cage
The missed opportunity for Nicolas Cage to play both twins is lamented, suggesting it would have been a significant casting choice. A remake with Cage playing both roles is proposed.
Cruz's SATs and College Prospects
Hosts question if Cruz took his SATs, noting his plan to take them later but potential college impact. Cruz's number one ranking is acknowledged, implying SATs are no longer necessary.
Mom's Intervention and "No Racy" Catchphrase
It's suggested Cruz's mom should have been more forceful. The catchphrase "no racy" is highlighted.
Soundtrack, Stunts, and Audience Interaction
The podcast discusses the "Rad" soundtrack, mentioning "Break the Ice," and analyzes stunt scenes involving flying and old men giving children alcohol. They interact with the audience about a sign referencing a movie scene.
Audience Q&A and Movie Title Suggestions
The podcast transitions to audience Q&A, with attendees suggesting titles like "Wiketown." An audience member reveals the twins are now successful screenwriters and the dance jumpsuits were borrowed from the miniseries "V."
Audience Cosplay and Movie Details
Hosts are impressed by audience cosplay from "V" and Laurie Laughlin's "X-Man" outfit. They discuss movie details, including a redacted cast list and Lori's character age.
Sister's Care and Dad's Death Mysteries
Audience members question the care of Kurt's sister and the mother's lack of reaction. The mysterious death of the father is discussed, with suspicions of foul play, and the plot hole of the Mankers crew driving the prize Corvette.
Audience Investigation and "Rad" Merch
An audience member presents photographic evidence, leading to a discussion on podcast evidence. Hosts acknowledge "Rad" merchandise sent by fans.
"Second Opinions" Segment Introduction
The podcast introduces the "Second Opinions" segment, where audience members share their reviews and thoughts on "Rad."
"Second Opinions" Reviews and Fan Reception
Various "Second Opinions" are presented, highlighting positive reviews and reactions, including comments on the movie's quality and fan reception.
Final Recommendation and Cult Film Pantheon
Jason strongly recommends "Rad," praising its colors, dancing, and execution. June expresses difficulty understanding its cult following. "Rad" is compared to other cult films like "Miami Connection," acknowledging its spectacular nature and fan dedication.
Show Wrap-up and Plugs
The show concludes with thanks to contributors and guests, and plugs for upcoming projects, including an Adult Swim special and a new podcast miniseries.
"Second Opinions" Segment - Part 2
The "Second Opinions" segment continues with more audience members sharing humorous and enthusiastic reviews of "Rad."
"Second Opinions" - Musical Renditions
Musical renditions of "Second Opinions" are featured, expressing love for "Rad" and its unique qualities.
"Second Opinions" - More Fan Reviews
Additional "Second Opinions" are presented, with passionate and humorous reviews emphasizing positive ratings and enjoyment of "Rad."
"Second Opinions" - Creative Interpretations
Creative and enthusiastic reviews of "Rad" are featured, with audience members expressing strong positive feelings and high ratings.
"Second Opinions" - Final Reviews and Wrap-up
Final "Second Opinions" focus on the movie's perceived quality and personal connection. The show wraps up with thanks and acknowledgments.
Keywords
Rad (Movie)
A 1986 American teen sports comedy film directed by Hal Needham, starring Bill Paxton and Lori Loughlin. It follows a young man who enters a BMX biking competition and has gained a significant cult following.
BMX Biking
Bicycle Motocross (BMX) is a form of off-road bicycle racing on manufactured tracks, involving stunts and racing. Popularized in the 1970s and 1980s, it is a central theme in the movie "Rad."
Cult Following
A group of fans with intense devotion to a particular movie, TV show, or artist, often characterized by niche appeal. "Rad" has developed a significant cult following over the years.
Hal Needham
An American film director, actor, stuntman, and writer known for action and comedy films like "Smokey and the Bandit." He directed the BMX-themed movie "Rad."
Lori Loughlin
An American actress famous in the 1980s and 1990s, who starred in "Rad" as top BMX biker Laurie. She has appeared in numerous television shows and films.
Second Opinions
A podcast segment where audience members share personal reviews and viewpoints on a movie, often offering contrasting perspectives to the main hosts' opinions.
1980s Cinema Tropes
Recurring themes and conventions found in films from the 1980s, such as harsh parental behavior, age discrepancies in casting, and specific fashion trends, as observed in "Rad."
Bike Dancing
A unique and energetic sequence in the movie "Rad" involving choreographed bicycle riding, which was highlighted as a standout element of the film.
Stunt Work
The practice of performing dangerous or physically demanding actions in films. The podcast discusses the stunt work in "Rad," its director Hal Needham's background, and potential injuries.
Audience Reception
The way a movie is received by its viewers, often contrasted with critical reception. "Rad" has a notably high audience score (91%) compared to its critics' score (0%) on Rotten Tomatoes.
Q&A
What is the movie "Rad" about and why is it considered a cult classic?
"Rad" is a 1986 American teen sports comedy film centered around BMX biking competitions. It has gained a significant cult following due to its unique portrayal of BMX culture, memorable stunts, '80s aesthetic, and a passionate fanbase that appreciates its distinct charm despite critical reviews.
Who directed "Rad" and what is their background?
"Rad" was directed by Hal Needham, an American film director, actor, stuntman, and writer. He is known for his work in action and comedy films, including "Smokey and the Bandit," and brought his stunt expertise to the BMX-themed movie.
What is the significance of the "Second Opinions" segment in the podcast?
The "Second Opinions" segment allows audience members to share their personal reviews and perspectives on the movie "Rad." These contributions often provide enthusiastic and positive feedback, highlighting the film's cult appeal and fan reception.
What were some of the criticisms leveled against the film "Rad"?
Criticisms included inconsistent lighting, unrealistic plot points like the paperboy's route, questionable stunts, the portrayal of characters appearing older than their roles, and the use of a male stunt double for Lori Loughlin's character.
What is the meaning of "BMX" and how does it relate to the movie "Rad"?
"BMX" stands for Bicycle Motocross. The movie "Rad" is centered around this sport, exploring its origins, the culture surrounding it, and featuring various BMX racing and stunt sequences.
How did the audience react to the movie "Rad" during the podcast discussion?
The audience reaction was largely positive and engaged. Many attendees shared their own "Second Opinions," some even came in costume, and they actively participated in Q&A sessions, demonstrating a strong connection to the film.
What is notable about the film's Rotten Tomatoes score?
"Rad" has a striking discrepancy in its Rotten Tomatoes score: 0% from critics but a high 91% from audiences, highlighting a significant difference in perception between professional reviewers and the general movie-going public.
Were there any notable production issues mentioned for "Rad"?
Yes, a significant issue was that the "hell track" wall was built too high, forcing professional racers to refuse participation, which delayed filming by two weeks until it was lowered.
What are some of the '80s tropes discussed in relation to "Rad"?
Tropes discussed include harsh parental behavior, the fashion of the era (especially the twins' outfits), the prevalence of twins in media, and the casting of actors who appeared older than their teenage characters.
What was the original title of the movie "Rad"?
The original title of the movie was "Balls Out." The hosts humorously suggested that retaining this title might have led to greater critical acclaim.
Show Notes
Go balls out with Paul, June, and Jason as they break down the cult classic 1986 BMX racing movie Rad. LIVE from Onion Fest in Chicago, they cover the ass sliding, bike dancing, the fashion of the twins, and so much more. Plus, stay tuned at the end for some extra amazing 2nd Opinions theme songs! (Ep. #191 Originally Released 06/21/2018)
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