DiscoverMy Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia HardstarkRewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 12: Our Bodies, Our Twelves
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 12: Our Bodies, Our Twelves

Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 12: Our Bodies, Our Twelves

Update: 2024-09-25
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This episode of "My Favorite Murder" is a Rewind episode, revisiting the hosts' 2016 episode "Our Bodies, Our 12s." Karen and Georgia discuss the murders that sparked their true crime obsession, sharing their personal stories, including Karen's experience with the attempted murder of David Rothenberg and Georgia's encounter with the Diane Downs case. They also reflect on the impact of their podcast, acknowledging their privilege and the importance of not offending victims. The hosts discuss their personal experiences with true crime, revealing how it impacted their upbringing and their desire to understand the darker aspects of the world. They also discuss their curiosity and how it led them to create the podcast. The episode concludes with the hosts discussing their plans for the future, including a book club focused on Ann Rule's books, the upcoming Jominee Ramsey documentary, and their efforts to create a unique fan experience for their listeners.

Outlines

00:01:19
Revisiting "Our Bodies, Our 12s"

Karen and Georgia revisit their 2016 episode, "Our Bodies, Our 12s," discussing the murders that sparked their true crime obsession and sharing their personal stories.

00:13:50
Karen's Story: The Attempted Murder of David Rothenberg

Karen recounts the attempted murder of David Rothenberg, a six-year-old boy set on fire by his father in 1983. She shares the details of the incident, the aftermath, and the lasting impact it had on her.

00:31:03
Georgia's Story: The Diane Downs Case

Georgia discusses the Diane Downs case, a woman who shot her three children in 1983. She describes Downs's manipulative behavior, her interviews with the press, and the eventual conviction and sentencing.

00:49:34
Listener Feedback and Corrections

Karen and Georgia read listener comments and feedback on the episode, including a correction about Manitoba being a province, not a city. They also discuss the importance of using respectful language when discussing sex work.

01:01:07
Reflecting on the Podcast's Impact

The hosts discuss their perspective on true crime, acknowledging their privilege and the importance of not offending victims. They emphasize their desire to provide information and resources, while also acknowledging the potential for the topic to be upsetting.

01:02:18
Personal Connection to True Crime

The hosts share their personal experiences with true crime, revealing how it impacted their upbringing and their desire to understand the darker aspects of the world. They discuss their curiosity and how it led them to create the podcast.

01:04:45
Podcast Wrap-Up and Future Plans

The hosts wrap up the episode, thanking listeners and encouraging them to rate, review, and subscribe. They also promote their merchandise and remind listeners to stay safe. They discuss their plans for the future, including a book club focused on Ann Rule's books, the upcoming Jominee Ramsey documentary, and their efforts to create a unique fan experience for their listeners.

Keywords

True Crime


A genre of media that focuses on real-life crimes, including murders, serial killers, and other criminal investigations. It often explores the psychology of criminals and the impact of crime on victims and their families.

Attempted Murder


An act where an individual intends to kill another person but fails to do so. It can involve various methods, such as shooting, stabbing, or poisoning.

Serial Killer


An individual who commits two or more murders, often with a cooling-off period between each crime. They typically have a specific pattern or motive for their killings.

Sex Work


A broad term encompassing various forms of paid sexual services, including prostitution, escorting, and adult entertainment. It's a complex and often stigmatized industry with significant social and legal implications.

Listener Feedback


Comments, suggestions, and reactions from listeners of a podcast, often shared through social media, email, or other platforms.

Ann Rule


A renowned true crime author known for her in-depth reporting and gripping narratives. Her books often focus on real-life crimes, including the case of Ted Bundy.

Jominee Ramsey Documentary


A documentary film about the life and death of JonBenét Ramsey, a child beauty queen who was murdered in 1996. The case has been a subject of intense media scrutiny and public fascination.

Fan Experience


The overall experience that fans have with a particular media product, including the content itself, the interactions with other fans, and the relationship with the creators.

Q&A

  • What are some of the key differences between Karen and Georgia's initial approach to true crime and their current approach?

    Initially, Karen and Georgia were more casual and less sensitive in their discussions, often making jokes about victims. Over time, they've become more aware of the impact of their words and have adopted a more respectful and thoughtful approach.

  • How does the episode highlight the importance of empathy and understanding in discussing true crime?

    By sharing their personal stories and reflecting on their past mistakes, Karen and Georgia demonstrate the importance of approaching true crime with empathy and sensitivity. They also emphasize the need to be mindful of the impact of their words on victims and their families.

  • What personal experiences have the hosts shared that have influenced their interest in true crime and the creation of their podcast?

    The hosts have shared their experiences as latchkey kids, their upbringing in families where they were shielded from the realities of life, and their curiosity about the darker aspects of the world. These experiences have shaped their approach to true crime and their desire to explore it through their podcast.

  • What is the significance of the Jominee Ramsey documentary for the hosts of My Favorite Murder?

    The hosts consider the documentary to be a significant event for their podcast, comparing it to the Super Bowl. They believe it will resonate with their audience and generate a lot of interest and discussion.

  • How do the hosts of My Favorite Murder strive to create a unique and engaging fan experience for their listeners?

    The hosts emphasize their attention to detail and their commitment to providing a structured and engaging listening experience. They have developed a specific format for their Rewind episodes and are constantly working to improve their content and connect with their audience.

Show Notes

It's time to Rewind with Karen & Georgia!

This week, K & G recap Episode 12 – Our Bodies, Our Twelves – and the cases that got them into true crime: the attempted murder of David Rothenberg and the murders of Diane Downs. Listen for all-new commentary, case updates and more!

Whether you've listened a thousand times or you're new to the show, join the conversation as we look back on our old episodes and discuss the life lessons we’ve learned along the way. Head to social media to share your favorite moments from this episode!  

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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories, and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921.

The Exactly Right podcast network provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics, including true crime, comedy, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

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Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 12: Our Bodies, Our Twelves

Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 12: Our Bodies, Our Twelves

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