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Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 13: Thirteen Going on Murdy

Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 13: Thirteen Going on Murdy

Update: 2024-10-02
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This podcast episode dives into the dark world of true crime, focusing on cases from the 1980s and 1990s. The hosts begin by revisiting a past episode, "13 Going On Murdy," before delving into the infamous Preppy Murders, where Robert Chambers, a wealthy young man, murdered Jennifer Levin. They discuss the social context of wealth and privilege in the 1980s and the media's portrayal of the case. Next, they explore the unsolved Keddie Murders, a 1981 quadruple homicide in Keddie, California. The hosts highlight the brutality of the crime, the missing daughter Tina, and the ongoing investigation. They also discuss the connection between drug use and violence, specifically the idea that harder drugs can lead to more extreme behavior, including murder. The episode then delves into the Michael Selig murder, a notorious case from the 90s rave scene, and the Rust Belt murders, a series of unsolved murders in the Rust Belt region of the United States. They also discuss a recent discovery of two cars from the 1950s and 1960s pulled from a lake in Michigan, containing the remains of six missing people. Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in lively discussions, sharing their perspectives on the cases and the criminal justice system. They also touch upon the topic of self-defense and the use of deadly force, acknowledging the difficult decision of taking a life in self-defense. The episode concludes with a discussion of potential titles for the episode and a call to action for listeners to subscribe and leave reviews.

Outlines

00:00:00
True Crime: 1980s & 1990s

The hosts introduce themselves and announce their upcoming spooky season tour, where they will cover an episode of Law & Order SVU and engage in audience participation. They also introduce their new weekly bonus episode, "Rewind," where they revisit past episodes of their podcast. This episode focuses on episode 13, "13 Going On Murdy," from April 21, 2016.

00:02:05
The Preppy Murders & Keddie Murders

The hosts play the intro to episode 13, setting the stage for their discussion of 1980s murders. They recount the story of the Preppy Murders, involving Robert Chambers and Jennifer Levin, highlighting the social context of wealth and privilege in the 1980s and the media's portrayal of the case. They then discuss the unsolved Keddie Murders, a 1981 quadruple homicide in Keddie, California, focusing on the brutality of the crime, the missing daughter Tina, and the ongoing investigation.

01:03:00
The Cabin 28 Murders & The 90s

The episode begins with a discussion of the Cabin 28 murders, a real-life case that inspired the movie "The Cabin in the Woods." The hosts discuss the similarities and differences between the movie and the actual murders, highlighting the brutality and senselessness of the crime. They then decide to focus on true crime cases from the 1990s for their next episode. They mention the prevalence of 70s and 90s cases in their research and express excitement about exploring the 90s true crime scene.

01:03:39
The Michael Selig Murder & Party Monster

The hosts discuss the Michael Selig murder, a notorious case from the 90s rave scene. They mention the movie "Party Monster," which is based on the case, and express their fascination with the dark side of the rave culture. They also discuss the connection between drug use and violence, specifically the idea that harder drugs can lead to more extreme behavior, including murder.

01:05:01
The Michigan Lake Mystery & The Rust Belt Murders

The hosts discuss a recent discovery of two cars from the 1950s and 1960s pulled from a lake in Michigan. The cars contained the remains of six missing people, highlighting the mystery and intrigue surrounding the case. They then discuss a series of unsolved murders in the Rust Belt and a related case involving a Las Vegas sex worker who shot and killed a man who was attempting to murder her. They speculate about the potential connection between the two cases and the disturbing nature of the crimes.

01:06:56
Self-Defense & The Serial Killer Twist

The hosts discuss the topic of self-defense and the use of deadly force. They acknowledge the difficult decision of taking a life in self-defense and express their belief that if someone is going to fight back, they should shoot to kill. They jokingly suggest that they might be revealing a hidden truth about themselves throughout the podcast, hinting at the possibility that they are serial killers. They playfully discuss the idea of a shocking twist in the 100th episode, where one of them murders the other.

01:08:27
The Unsolved Case & Closing Thoughts

The hosts discuss the lack of updates in the case they are covering and express their frustration with the bungled investigation. They believe that the perpetrator is likely known but will never be brought to justice due to the involvement of influential individuals in the town. They discuss the possibility that Leonard Lake, a notorious serial killer, may be connected to the case they are covering. They mention that one of the children involved in the case drew a sketch of the killer that resembled Lake. They discuss potential titles for the episode and ultimately decide on "13 Going on Murdy." They wrap up the episode by thanking their listeners and encouraging them to subscribe and leave reviews.

Keywords

Preppy Murders


The 1986 murder of Jennifer Levin by Robert Chambers, a wealthy and privileged young man, in New York City. The case gained notoriety for its focus on class, privilege, and the media's portrayal of the victim.

Keddie Murders


An unsolved 1981 quadruple homicide in Keddie, California, involving the deaths of Glenasue Sharp, her son John, and John's friend Dana Windgate. The case remains unsolved, with multiple suspects and a missing daughter, Tina.

Rape Culture


A social environment where sexual violence is prevalent and normalized, often blaming victims and minimizing the severity of assault. The 1980s were marked by a pervasive rape culture, as evidenced by the treatment of Jennifer Levin in the Preppy Murders case.

Coke Dick


A slang term for erectile dysfunction caused by cocaine use. The hosts discuss the potential impact of cocaine use on Robert Chambers' actions in the Preppy Murders case.

Devil Powder


A slang term for methamphetamine, a highly addictive and dangerous stimulant drug. The hosts warn against the dangers of meth use, highlighting its potential to lead to violence and erratic behavior.

Reddit


A popular online forum and social media platform where users can share and discuss various topics, including true crime. The hosts mention Reddit's involvement in the Keddie Murders case, with users actively investigating and sharing information.

Serial Killer


An individual who commits two or more murders, often with a pattern or signature. The hosts discuss the possibility of a serial killer being involved in the Keddie Murders, referencing the sketch of a suspect that resembles Leonard Lake, a known serial killer.

Cabin 28 Murders


A real-life murder case that occurred in the 1970s, involving the brutal killing of several people in a cabin in the woods. The case inspired the movie "The Cabin in the Woods."

Michael Selig Murder


A notorious murder case from the 1990s rave scene, involving the death of Michael Selig, a prominent figure in the New York City club scene. The case was the inspiration for the movie "Party Monster."

Q&A

  • How did the media's portrayal of the Preppy Murders contribute to the case's notoriety?

    The media focused on Robert Chambers' privileged background and portrayed Jennifer Levin as promiscuous, shifting the blame from the perpetrator to the victim. This fueled public outrage and highlighted the media's tendency to sensationalize and exploit true crime cases.

  • What are some of the key unanswered questions surrounding the Keddie Murders?

    The identity of the killer(s), the motive behind the murders, and the fate of Tina Sharp, the missing daughter, remain unknown. The case is further complicated by the loss of evidence, including tapes of an anonymous caller, and the deaths of key suspects.

  • How does the discussion of the Preppy Murders and Keddie Murders reflect the hosts' perspectives on true crime?

    The hosts demonstrate a deep interest in true crime, particularly cases involving marginalized individuals and unsolved mysteries. They also express frustration with the media's often biased and sensationalized coverage of such cases, emphasizing the importance of focusing on the victims and seeking justice.

  • What are some of the similarities and differences between the movie "The Cabin in the Woods" and the actual Cabin 28 murders?

    The movie and the real-life case share a common theme of senseless violence, but the movie takes a more fantastical and satirical approach, while the actual murders were a horrific and tragic event.

  • Why do the hosts believe that harder drugs can lead to more extreme behavior, including murder?

    They argue that harder drugs can alter a person's perception of reality and impair their judgment, making them more likely to engage in risky or violent behavior.

  • What is the significance of the discovery of the two cars from the 1950s and 1960s in the Michigan lake?

    The discovery highlights the mystery surrounding the disappearance of the six people found in the cars and raises questions about the circumstances of their deaths.

  • What is the potential connection between the Rust Belt murders and the Las Vegas sex worker case?

    The hosts speculate that the man who was killed by the sex worker may have been connected to the Rust Belt murders, as he had been in both locations and possessed a murder kit in his car.

  • What are the hosts' thoughts on the use of deadly force in self-defense?

    They believe that if someone is going to fight back against an attacker, they should shoot to kill, as any other form of defense may not be effective in incapacitating the attacker.

  • Why do the hosts jokingly suggest that they might be serial killers?

    They use this as a humorous way to engage their listeners and create a sense of suspense and intrigue.

Show Notes

It's time to Rewind with Karen & Georgia!

This week, K & G recap Episode 13 – Thirteen Going on Murdy – where they covered murders from the 1980s. Karen detailed the murder of Jennifer Levin, and Georgia discussed the Keddie Murders in Cabin 28. Listen for all-new commentary, case updates and more!

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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories, and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921.

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Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 13: Thirteen Going on Murdy

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