I can tell the Prosecutor has never been in a fight before, specially in a bar fight. Dude, you just go into survival mode. The craziest thing is that the prosecutor is butt hurt about how the defense lawyer approached her. What?!!! This system is so messed up.
How was Anna supposed to stop when she was being attacked. It shouldn’t matter if there is audio it’s obvious she was harassed at then attacked and multiple people involved how is she supposed to know what is going on with so much chaos. This is crazy. So unfair.
If the system worked, the people who assaulted Anna would have been charged and convicted. So maybe things could have gone worse for Anna, but they certainly didn't work out overall.
Anna got screwed. That sergeant was an ass hole & should never have taken her to jail. He knew what happened because that lady said what happened to her. Anna was sexually assaulted & also an officer calling her sweetheart is inappropriate. no officer should EVER call a woman sweetheart.
The rule of law doesn't exist
what a disappointment. Compelling characters and stories reduced to simple PC analysis: race and gender. The narrator never misses the opportunity to squeeze issues and conflicts into one or both of these two boxes. Tedious and predictable.
Lyle Jenish You are, I assume, a white male?
Lyle Jenish What does this have to do with political correctness? There's a mountain of evidence that shows race and gender play prominent roles in how people are treated, particularly in the courts. It would be irresponsible paltering for a journalist to ignore that.
Bar Fight. Thank you! My dream in life is to expose. I am a convicted felon. I have been through the system. I am from Columbus, Ohio and I see the sisterhood in the close county court systems. As a matter of fact, my fiance has been hazed by Cuyahoga county. I have recently been scared into yet ANOTHER plea bargain....except this time I caught the wrath of a bank robbery. Ever heard of 3 years probation for a crime of that Magnitude???? Ask me how you can achieve probation for ROBBING A BANK AT GUN POINT! My point exactly😢😢😢😢😢
it's so sad that you chose to try something different for season 3..... maybe cause the lack of good stories...dont know.But it seems to me that season 3 dont fit with the title 'Serial' . There is no suspense anymore and no reason for me to wanna listen to the next episode. In the last 2 season , I was craving for new episodes to arrive... but now, there is just no reason for me to listen to the next. ...
S2's basic premise: military dude gets kidnapped by Al Quaeda b/c he wanted to be the Bourne Ultimatum/Legacy/etc. I really tried to get into it... After a few episodes, I rage quit the rest of S2, lol! Onto S3. Hopefully not quite as boring. BTW, shouldn't this podcast be about serial killers?
Stan Serial means a series or episodes of one story.
Stan se·ri·al /ˈsirēəl/ adjective 1. consisting of, forming part of, or taking place in a series. "a serial publication" The first season wasn't about a "Serial Killer" what makes you think any other season would be about serial killers?
I'm halfway through episode one and am so upset by the female prosecutor who said "if she just stopped fighting ...." I am a supporter of the guys in blue, but as a female myself, I can understand why Anna kept fighting - she was getting beat on and regardless if she could hear the police officer or not her adrenaline was probably so high from fear that it would take a moment for that command from the officer to register. However, she was in a "fight or flight" scenario, so her brain was only thinking about staying alive! I understand the prosecutor has something to prove, but for Christ sake, choose your battles and have compassion!
Liz Fisher Sobocinski I totally agree with u
I can't help but getting upset when I hear the talk about pursuing trial is an "obstructionist". This is peoples lives! Even in the first episode how broken the court system is.
am I supposed to feel bad for her?
Nina Fernandes Exactly.
Lauren Hebrank I don't feel bad for her either.
Anna was clearly guilty of Unladylike Behaviour. 4 days in jail and fines? Society's encouragement to learn how to act in a ladylike manner.
Peter Chaloner Did you forget to switch accounts?
Peter Chaloner Let us remember that the Blessed Virgin Mary frowns, when she hears a girl whistle. A fortiori, when she sees a girl in a figure-hugging outfit perched on a bar stool in a joint fairly described as canaille.
"Huh, is that how it works in Cleveland?"
That's how it works in Wilkes-Barre, PA.
Lois A. Grimm That's how it works everywhere.
Lois A. Grimm I'm from Wilkes Barre that just made me laugh!
You go to a bar, mind your own business, get sexually assaulted my multiple people, and, in a physical altercation not instigated by you, you accidentally punch a policeman. There are multiple, excellent video/audio recordings of everything that happened. Result: you're apprehended and narrowly avoid going to jail and owe >$1k to the government, and this is largely considered an example of the system working.
God, sometimes I just want to see the American criminal justice system be burnt to the ground.
Benjamin Chen And none of the other people involved got arrested at all. It's terrible.
Benjamin Chen Vote in November and in the next one end and the next one and we trust may see that happen in our lifetime
I worked next to the Justice Center jn Cleveland for a year as a valet. Then about another year as a clerk for an attorney where I was in the Justice Center somewhat regularly. The way she describes the building and system is astoundingly accurate.
MrJohnnypantz unfortunately criminal justice affects only a minority of people in such a direct way that they understand what is going on on the inside.
Nick Kerr As glad as I am that this is accurate, I am ashamed that it is. We should all be ashamed.
hahahaha misophony is a real thing, russ eating carrott cake so grossssss
Yessssss! So good to have you back!
Why is playing loud music in a public and fairly formal setting a race issue? I would think it's more of a politeness issue, I'm listening to my serial with headphones, because I assume not everyone wants to hear it.
Aidan Gardiner Why is being descriptive considered racial?
S03 Episode 09: Some Time When Everything Has Changed
S03 Episode 08: A Madman’s Vacation
S03 Episode 07: The Snowball Effect
S03 Episode 06: You in the Red Shirt
S03 Episode 05: Pleas Baby Pleas
S03 Episode 04: A Bird in Jail Is Worth Two on the Street
S03 Episode 03: Misdemeanor, Meet Mr. Lawsuit
S03 Episode 02: You’ve Got Some Gauls
S03 Episode 01: A Bar Fight Walks into the Justice Center
S02 Episode 11: Present for Duty
S02 Episode 10: Thorny Politics
S02 Episode 09: Trade Secrets
S02 Episode 08: Hindsight, Part 2
S02 Episode 07: Hindsight, Part 1
S01 Update: Day 03, Adnan Syed’s Hearing
S01 Update: Day 02, Adnan Syed’s Hearing
S02 Episode 06: 5 O'Clock Shadow
S01 Update: Day 01, Adnan Syed’s Hearing
S02 Episode 05: Meanwhile, in Tampa