S15 E58: Liam Eagen, Robin Linus & Jonas Nick on Shielded Client Side Validation & Bitcoin Privacy
Update: 2024-10-10
Description
Liam Eagen (Alpen Labs), Robin Linus (Zero Sync, BitVM) & Jonas Nick (Blockstream, Taproot) talk about their groundbreaking research paper about Shielded Client-Side Validation – a new way to bring privacy & scalability to Bitcoin.
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Time stamps:
Introduction (00:00:51 )
What is Client-Side Validation? (00:02:09 )
Trade-offs in Client-Side Validation (00:04:20 )
Comparison with Existing Protocols (00:05:18 )
On-chain Throughput and Privacy (00:09:21 )
Connecting Bitcoin and Shielded CSV (00:09:55 )
User Interaction with the Protocol (00:11:07 )
Challenges with the Lightning Network (00:12:22 )
Atomic Swaps and Compatibility (00:14:56 )
Shielded CSV vs Monero & Zcash (00:16:12 )
Discussion on STARKs (00:19:28 )
OP_CAT and Covenants (00:21:46 )
OP_CAT and Functional Encryption (00:24:03 )
Exploration of BitcoinOS (00:25:21 )
Potential of BitVM (00:26:11 )
Bitcoin as a Currency (00:28:21 )
Funding for CSV Projects (00:30:40 )
Taint Concept in Shielded Transactions (00:31:14 )
Adoption and Privacy Protocols (00:34:08 )
Transaction Fees in Shielded Transactions (00:35:08 )
Throughput and Base Layer Efficiency (00:36:04 )
Node Behavior During Transactions (00:38:12 )
Comparison with MimbleWimble (00:39:41 )
CryptoSteel’s New Device (00:40:29 )
Drivechains (00:41:04 ) Discussion about crypto steel backups and a sponsor, Layer Two Labs, promoting drive chains.
Concerns Over Soft Forks (00:43:51 )
Rough Consensus Definition (00:45:04 )
Challenges of Soft Fork Implementation (00:46:15 )
Balancing Stability and Innovation (00:47:29 )
Miner Incentives and Fee Structures (00:48:38 )
Future of Post-Quantum Proposals (00:49:44 )
Increasing Block Size for CSV (00:50:00 )
Ideal Block Size Debate (00:53:08 )
Quantum Computing Threat (00:59:02 )
Potential Consequences of Quantum Attacks (01:00:24 )
Post-Quantum Solutions (01:02:23 )
Quantum Computing Timeline (01:02:50 )
Complexity of Quantum Computers (01:03:31 )
Quantum Records and Limitations (01:05:44 )
Chat Question on Shielding Protocol (01:06:12 )
Hodling.ch (01:06:45 )
Self-Custody Security (01:09:15 )
Threat Models in Security (01:09:58 )
Hardware Wallet Cautionary Tale (01:10:33 )
Conference Discussions (01:12:05 )
Shielded CSV Funding and Development Timeline (01:13:58 )
Prototype Development Outlook (01:15:29 )
Concerns Over Adoption (01:17:31 )
Scalability vs. Privacy Debate (01:19:34 )
Tether on Shielded CSV? (01:22:04 )
Revenue Models Discussion (01:22:22 )
Transaction Fees and Profitability (01:23:25 )
Publisher Fees in CSV Protocol (01:24:16 )
Competition and Business Models (01:25:40 )
Soft Fork Proposals for Improvement (01:26:07 )
Script Restoration and Arithmetic Improvements (01:27:30 )
Future of Shielded Client-Side Validation (01:37:23 )
Keeping Up with Developments (01:38:44 )
Self-Promotion and Team Dynamics (01:41:05 )
Proof of Stake? (01:42:51 )
Rare Pepes in Shielded CSV (01:43:56 )
Acknowledgment of Guests (01:46:18 )
Call to Action: Shield Emoji (01:47:57 )
Importance of Learning Bitcoin (01:48:07 )
Resources for Learning Bitcoin (01:48:31 )
Commentary on Peter Wuille (01:49:26 )
Block Size Debate (01:50:02 )
Optimizing Bitcoin for Global Use (01:51:05 )
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Time stamps:
Introduction (00:00:51 )
What is Client-Side Validation? (00:02:09 )
Trade-offs in Client-Side Validation (00:04:20 )
Comparison with Existing Protocols (00:05:18 )
On-chain Throughput and Privacy (00:09:21 )
Connecting Bitcoin and Shielded CSV (00:09:55 )
User Interaction with the Protocol (00:11:07 )
Challenges with the Lightning Network (00:12:22 )
Atomic Swaps and Compatibility (00:14:56 )
Shielded CSV vs Monero & Zcash (00:16:12 )
Discussion on STARKs (00:19:28 )
OP_CAT and Covenants (00:21:46 )
OP_CAT and Functional Encryption (00:24:03 )
Exploration of BitcoinOS (00:25:21 )
Potential of BitVM (00:26:11 )
Bitcoin as a Currency (00:28:21 )
Funding for CSV Projects (00:30:40 )
Taint Concept in Shielded Transactions (00:31:14 )
Adoption and Privacy Protocols (00:34:08 )
Transaction Fees in Shielded Transactions (00:35:08 )
Throughput and Base Layer Efficiency (00:36:04 )
Node Behavior During Transactions (00:38:12 )
Comparison with MimbleWimble (00:39:41 )
CryptoSteel’s New Device (00:40:29 )
Drivechains (00:41:04 ) Discussion about crypto steel backups and a sponsor, Layer Two Labs, promoting drive chains.
Concerns Over Soft Forks (00:43:51 )
Rough Consensus Definition (00:45:04 )
Challenges of Soft Fork Implementation (00:46:15 )
Balancing Stability and Innovation (00:47:29 )
Miner Incentives and Fee Structures (00:48:38 )
Future of Post-Quantum Proposals (00:49:44 )
Increasing Block Size for CSV (00:50:00 )
Ideal Block Size Debate (00:53:08 )
Quantum Computing Threat (00:59:02 )
Potential Consequences of Quantum Attacks (01:00:24 )
Post-Quantum Solutions (01:02:23 )
Quantum Computing Timeline (01:02:50 )
Complexity of Quantum Computers (01:03:31 )
Quantum Records and Limitations (01:05:44 )
Chat Question on Shielding Protocol (01:06:12 )
Hodling.ch (01:06:45 )
Self-Custody Security (01:09:15 )
Threat Models in Security (01:09:58 )
Hardware Wallet Cautionary Tale (01:10:33 )
Conference Discussions (01:12:05 )
Shielded CSV Funding and Development Timeline (01:13:58 )
Prototype Development Outlook (01:15:29 )
Concerns Over Adoption (01:17:31 )
Scalability vs. Privacy Debate (01:19:34 )
Tether on Shielded CSV? (01:22:04 )
Revenue Models Discussion (01:22:22 )
Transaction Fees and Profitability (01:23:25 )
Publisher Fees in CSV Protocol (01:24:16 )
Competition and Business Models (01:25:40 )
Soft Fork Proposals for Improvement (01:26:07 )
Script Restoration and Arithmetic Improvements (01:27:30 )
Future of Shielded Client-Side Validation (01:37:23 )
Keeping Up with Developments (01:38:44 )
Self-Promotion and Team Dynamics (01:41:05 )
Proof of Stake? (01:42:51 )
Rare Pepes in Shielded CSV (01:43:56 )
Acknowledgment of Guests (01:46:18 )
Call to Action: Shield Emoji (01:47:57 )
Importance of Learning Bitcoin (01:48:07 )
Resources for Learning Bitcoin (01:48:31 )
Commentary on Peter Wuille (01:49:26 )
Block Size Debate (01:50:02 )
Optimizing Bitcoin for Global Use (01:51:05 )
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