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S2E9: You Make The Sun:  Natalie Kuhn's Journey of Burnout, Belonging, and Becoming

S2E9: You Make The Sun: Natalie Kuhn's Journey of Burnout, Belonging, and Becoming

Update: 2025-09-22
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In this episode, Paige engages in a dynamic conversation with Natalie, exploring themes of presence, mindfulness, and transformation. They share personal anecdotes about balancing professional and personal life, the significance of presence in various aspects of life, and the journey of navigating and managing stress. Natalie talks about her work with 'Make the Sun,' an initiative designed to help individuals meet their circumstances with vitality and aliveness, and her experience with 'The Class,' a movement-based workout that integrates emotional and physical expression. They also discuss Natalie's interfaith seminary studies, emphasizing a holistic and interconnected view of spirituality. Throughout, they emphasize the importance of internal practices like deep breathing and self-compassion to maintain balance and navigate life's challenges. The conversation is filled with warmth, humor, and deep insights into personal development and spiritual growth.

What We Explored This Episode

00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene

01:02 Exploring 'Make the Sun' Concept

03:42 Personal Journey and Early Influences

06:23 The Role of Movement and Expression

07:51 From Theater to Rock Bands

10:38 The Birth of 'The Class'

13:49 Leadership and Personal Growth

22:43 Navigating Challenges and Change

29:06 The Evolution of Acceptance and Stress Management

30:14 The Concept of Rate of Recovery

32:33 Self-Compassion and Avoiding Burnout

38:01 The Practice of Belly Breathing

44:26 Balancing Multiple Life Tracks

47:04 Exploring Faith and Spirituality

52:01 The Five Element Prayer

54:56 The Universality of Human Connection

58:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Memorable Quotes

"It’s not a one size fits all thing. Physical patterns have created behavior – the physical body and our behaviors manifest each other."

"I read this quote the other day that was a full mic drop, stop me in my tracks, life won’t be the same. And it was - you don’t have to burn out to show you care.

Resources Mentioned

The Class: https://www.theclass.com/

David Byrne rockumentary: https://www.davidbyrne.com/explore/ride-rise-roar

David Whyte, Author: https://davidwhyte.com/

John O’Donohue, Poet & Philosopher: https://www.johnodonohue.com/

Connect with Natalie

Website - www.youmakethesun.com

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisnatalie/

Instagram - @thisisnatalie

Connect with Paige

Website - https://paigenolan.com/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

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Music by Boyd McDonnell

Cover art photography by Innis Casey

Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

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S2E9: You Make The Sun:  Natalie Kuhn's Journey of Burnout, Belonging, and Becoming

S2E9: You Make The Sun: Natalie Kuhn's Journey of Burnout, Belonging, and Becoming