Andrew Horning is a former licensed private practice psychotherapist with a Masters degree in clinical work from the University of Michigan. He is trained in EMDR, Mediation and Dispute Resolution, Gottman Couples Counseling, and Brené Brown’s Daring Way. He also hosts a podcast on relationships and coached high school basketball. Drew published his book, Grappling: White Men’s Journey from Fragile to Agile, in May, 2021. He lives in Boulder, CO with his wife of over 20 years, Genny, and their two children.

Key Takeaways

• Place, where you grew up or where you live, can significantly shape your identity

  
  



• Show up open-hearted and curious to the experience of others

  
  



• Impact is more important to address than intent

  
  



• The world has been set up to maintain our comfort but it's important to sit with discomfort in order to grow

  
  



• Be fascinated by the people around you

  
  



• Maintain your practice of self-compassion through breath, meditation 

  
  



• Authenticity is all about making your words, actions, thoughts and feelings congruent with each other

  
  

Guest’s Media Recommendations:

• There Are No Bad Parts by Richard Schwartz (book)

  
  



• Come From Away (musical)

  
  

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Find Guest’s work:

• Hoffman Institute: https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/drew-horning/ 

  
  



• Website: https://www.andrewhorning.co/speaking

  
  

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For more of Michael’s work, visit our website www.incognitotheplay.com or follow us on Instagram @incognitotheplay

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Thanks to Ned Doheny for providing our podcast music! You can find him and his music on Spotify.

Editing and co-production of this podcast by Emma Yarger.

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