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SCOTUS Doing Its Worst - Strict Scrutiny Crossover

SCOTUS Doing Its Worst - Strict Scrutiny Crossover

Update: 2024-07-092
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This episode of "With Chris Hayes" delves into the Supreme Court's recent term, featuring a conversation with legal experts Melissa Murray, Leah Litman, and Kate Shaw, hosts of the podcast "Strict Scrutiny." The discussion begins with an exploration of the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, known for its extreme conservative rulings, and its role as a potential breeding ground for future Supreme Court nominees. The episode then shifts to the Supreme Court's decision in "Loperbright v. EPA," which overturned the Chevron deference doctrine, granting courts greater power to interpret statutes and potentially limiting the authority of administrative agencies. The conversation further examines the implications of this decision for various sectors, including immigration and intelligence agencies. The episode culminates in a detailed analysis of the Supreme Court's decision to grant Donald Trump immunity from prosecution, highlighting the lack of textual foundation for this ruling and its potential consequences for the future of American democracy. The experts discuss the court's apparent disregard for expertise and evidence, its tendency to prioritize ideological outcomes over legal principles, and the potential for a further erosion of democratic norms. The episode concludes with a call to action, urging listeners to engage in civic activism and to prioritize the courts in their electoral decisions.

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00:00:00
Introduction

This Chapter introduces the topic of the Supreme Court's recent term and the guests, Melissa Murray, Leah Litman, and Kate Shaw, hosts of the podcast "Strict Scrutiny."

00:01:49
The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals

This Chapter discusses the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, known for its extreme conservative rulings and its role as a potential breeding ground for future Supreme Court nominees. The discussion highlights the court's tendency to cook up "conservative meth" and its judges' auditioning for Supreme Court positions.

00:26:06
Administrative Law and the Overruling of Chevron Deference

This Chapter focuses on the Supreme Court's decision in "Loperbright v. EPA," which overturned the Chevron deference doctrine, granting courts greater power to interpret statutes and potentially limiting the authority of administrative agencies. The discussion explores the practical implications of this decision and the motivations behind it, highlighting the conservative legal movement's long-standing hostility towards agency power.

00:40:32
The Trump Immunity Decision

This Chapter delves into the Supreme Court's decision to grant Donald Trump immunity from prosecution, highlighting the lack of textual foundation for this ruling and its potential consequences for the future of American democracy. The experts discuss the court's apparent disregard for expertise and evidence, its tendency to prioritize ideological outcomes over legal principles, and the potential for a further erosion of democratic norms.

00:54:01
The Importance of Civic Engagement

This Chapter emphasizes the importance of civic engagement and the need to resist the court's attempts to undermine democratic norms. The experts argue that the court's decisions do not represent the final word on the Constitution and that individuals have a responsibility to uphold the Constitution's principles, even when the court fails to do so.

Keywords

Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals


The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals is a federal appellate court that oversees the states of Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi. It is known for its conservative rulings and its judges' tendency to advance extreme legal theories. The court has been criticized for its lack of judicial restraint and its willingness to overturn established precedent.

Chevron Deference


Chevron deference is a legal doctrine that requires courts to defer to reasonable interpretations of statutes by administrative agencies. The doctrine was established in the 1984 Supreme Court case "Chevron U.S.A., Inc. v. Natural Resources Defense Council, Inc." The Supreme Court's recent decision in "Loperbright v. EPA" overturned Chevron deference, granting courts greater power to interpret statutes and potentially limiting the authority of administrative agencies.

Administrative Law


Administrative law is a branch of law that governs the activities of administrative agencies, which are government entities that implement and enforce laws. Administrative law cases often involve disputes over the interpretation of statutes, the scope of agency authority, and the procedures that agencies must follow.

Donald Trump


Donald Trump is a former president of the United States. He is a controversial figure who has been accused of numerous legal and ethical violations. The Supreme Court's recent decision to grant Trump immunity from prosecution has been widely criticized as a political decision that undermines the rule of law.

Supreme Court


The Supreme Court of the United States is the highest court in the federal judicial system. It is composed of nine justices who are appointed for life by the president and confirmed by the Senate. The Supreme Court has the power to review decisions of lower courts and to interpret the Constitution.

Originalism


Originalism is a legal philosophy that holds that the Constitution should be interpreted according to the original understanding of its framers. Originalists argue that judges should not impose their own views on the Constitution but should instead strive to apply the original meaning of the text. The Supreme Court's recent decisions have been criticized for their reliance on originalism, which critics argue is a flawed and often politically motivated approach to constitutional interpretation.

Judicial Restraint


Judicial restraint is a legal philosophy that holds that judges should exercise caution in overturning laws or precedents. Restrained judges are more likely to defer to the decisions of elected officials and to avoid making broad pronouncements on social or political issues. The Supreme Court's recent decisions have been criticized for their lack of judicial restraint, which critics argue has led to a politicization of the court and a weakening of democratic norms.

Separation of Powers


The separation of powers is a fundamental principle of the United States Constitution that divides the federal government into three branches: the legislative branch (Congress), the executive branch (the president), and the judicial branch (the courts). Each branch has its own distinct powers and responsibilities, and the Constitution is designed to prevent any one branch from becoming too powerful. The Supreme Court's recent decisions have been criticized for their potential to undermine the separation of powers, particularly by granting the executive branch greater power and by limiting the authority of Congress and the courts.

Q&A

  • What is the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals and why is it significant?

    The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals is a federal appellate court that oversees the states of Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi. It is known for its conservative rulings and its judges' tendency to advance extreme legal theories. The court has been criticized for its lack of judicial restraint and its willingness to overturn established precedent. It is significant because it is seen as a potential breeding ground for future Supreme Court nominees, with judges often using their positions to audition for higher courts.

  • What is Chevron deference and how has the Supreme Court's recent decision in "Loperbright v. EPA" impacted it?

    Chevron deference is a legal doctrine that requires courts to defer to reasonable interpretations of statutes by administrative agencies. The doctrine was established in the 1984 Supreme Court case "Chevron U.S.A., Inc. v. Natural Resources Defense Council, Inc." The Supreme Court's recent decision in "Loperbright v. EPA" overturned Chevron deference, granting courts greater power to interpret statutes and potentially limiting the authority of administrative agencies. This decision has significant implications for the balance of power between the judiciary and the executive branch, as well as for the ability of agencies to effectively regulate various sectors.

  • What are the key arguments against the Supreme Court's decision to grant Donald Trump immunity from prosecution?

    The Supreme Court's decision to grant Donald Trump immunity from prosecution has been widely criticized for its lack of textual foundation, its disregard for historical precedent, and its potential to undermine the rule of law. Critics argue that the decision sets a dangerous precedent that could allow future presidents to evade accountability for their actions. They also point to the fact that the decision comes at a time when Trump is running for president again, raising concerns about the court's potential to influence the outcome of the election.

  • How does the Supreme Court's recent term reflect a broader trend towards judicial activism and a disregard for expertise?

    The Supreme Court's recent term has been marked by a number of decisions that have been criticized for their reliance on originalism, their lack of judicial restraint, and their disregard for expertise. Critics argue that the court is increasingly willing to overturn established precedent and to impose its own views on the Constitution, regardless of the consequences for democratic norms and the rule of law. The court's decisions in cases involving administrative law, abortion, and gun control have been particularly controversial, with critics arguing that the court is prioritizing ideological outcomes over legal principles and that it is failing to adequately consider the expertise of agencies and other experts.

  • What are some of the ways that individuals can resist the court's attempts to undermine democratic norms?

    Individuals can resist the court's attempts to undermine democratic norms by engaging in civic activism, by prioritizing the courts in their electoral decisions, and by holding elected officials accountable for their actions. It is important to remember that the court's decisions do not represent the final word on the Constitution and that individuals have a responsibility to uphold the Constitution's principles, even when the court fails to do so. By engaging in these activities, individuals can help to ensure that the United States remains a democracy and that the rule of law is upheld.

Show Notes

Another year, another pretty wild Supreme Court term. SCOTUS recently ended its term with a number of big decisions including ruling that former president Donald Trump is immune from prosecution for his “official acts” in office. And it also overturned the Chevron doctrine, reversing a 40-year-old precedent that afforded federal agencies a degree of discretion in interpreting ambiguous laws. As always, there’s a lot to unpack and we’re excited to share our third crossover episode with the hosts of the Strict Scrutiny podcast, Chris’ wife Kate Shaw, and her co-hosts Melissa Murray and Leah Litman. They join to discuss some of the most alarming actions from the super conservative majority of the Court, attacks on government agencies and more.
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SCOTUS Doing Its Worst - Strict Scrutiny Crossover

SCOTUS Doing Its Worst - Strict Scrutiny Crossover

Chris Hayes, Kate Shaw, Melissa Murray, Leah Litman