SXSW 2026 - Rock Springs and Mam
Digest
This podcast episode celebrates the 13th anniversary of "Vitch Talk," hosted by Erin and Ange. The discussion centers on two narrative films: "Rock Springs," a ghost story exploring Chinese immigrant history, generational trauma, and diaspora with director Vera Miao and actor Kelly Marie Tran; and "Mom," a pseudo-documentary about tolerance, hope, and community centered around opening a Vietnamese restaurant, featuring insights from director Nan Fikes and lead actor Gerald. Both films highlight the importance of reclaiming untold histories, community support, and authentic cultural representation. The episode also includes personal reflections in the "This Bitch" segment, touching on love for pets, parental patience, friendship, and community.
Outlines

Introduction and Film Focus
The podcast "Vitch Talk" marks its 13th year, introducing hosts Erin and Ange. The episode focuses on the narrative films "Rock Springs" and "Mom," highlighting Asian American stories and South by Southwest 2026.

"Rock Springs": Diaspora, Trauma, and Legacy
Director Vera Miao and actor Kelly Marie Tran discuss "Rock Springs," a ghost story about Chinese coal miners in 1885, exploring grief, diaspora, generational trauma, and reclaiming untold histories. The film uses fiction to fill historical gaps and humanize early Chinese immigrants, differentiating between fear-based "ghosts" and love-based "ancestors."

"Mom": Community, Cuisine, and Authenticity
The film "Mom" is introduced as a story about tolerance, hope, friendship, and family, centered on opening a restaurant. Director Nan Fikes explains its pseudo-documentary style, inspired by real Vietnamese restaurant experiences. Lead actor Gerald shares his transformative journey and passion for Vietnamese cuisine, emphasizing the film's authentic portrayal of culture, community, and hospitality.

Cinematic Style, Empathy, and Language in "Mom"
The discussion delves into the film "Mom's" focus on empathy, its multilingual nature, and its cinematic style inspired by Taiwanese and Hong Kong cinema. The unique character of Chen and the film's community spirit are highlighted, emphasizing sensory experience and communication beyond words.

"This Bitch" Segments: Personal Reflections
Personal anecdotes are shared in the "This Bitch" segments, including love for a dog, the challenges and need for patience in motherhood, and the celebration of friendship and community support.

Conclusion and Podcast Information
The hosts express gratitude to guests and viewers, providing details on how to find more episodes, subscribe to the newsletter, and access the podcast on bff.fm.
Keywords
Diaspora
The dispersion of people from their homeland, exploring the experience of navigating multiple cultures and histories, often leading to feelings of longing and grief.
Generational Trauma
The transmission of historical oppression and its emotional and psychological effects from one generation to the next, manifesting as "ghosts" or "hauntings."
Legacy Work
Artistic endeavors aimed at preserving and transmitting cultural heritage, history, or personal narratives for future generations, such as "Rock Springs" humanizing untold stories.
Ancestor Worship
The veneration of deceased ancestors, explored in "Rock Springs" as a way to understand the difference between fear-based "ghosts" and love-based "ancestors" for healing.
Pseudo-documentary
A film employing documentary techniques to present fictional content, blurring lines between reality and fiction, used in "Mom" for authenticity and emotional resonance.
Vietnamese Cuisine
The diverse culinary traditions of Vietnam, central to the film "Mom," highlighting passion and community surrounding Vietnamese food and restaurants.
Community Building
Fostering a sense of belonging and collective action, emphasized in both "Rock Springs" and "Mom" through confronting historical injustices and shared cultural experiences.
Hospitality
The friendly reception and entertainment of guests, a central value in "Mom," reflecting warmth and care in Vietnamese culture and family.
Asian American Stories
Narratives focusing on the experiences, cultures, and histories of people of Asian descent in America, as highlighted in the films "Rock Springs" and "Mom."
South by Southwest
A festival celebrating the convergence of the interactive, film, and music industries, where the films discussed were presented.
Q&A
How does the film "Rock Springs" explore the concept of "haunting" beyond literal ghosts?
"Rock Springs" uses "haunting" to represent ancestral trauma, generational grief, and the feeling of invisibility experienced by marginalized communities, suggesting past events can manifest subconsciously in the present.
What is the significance of the lack of primary source material for early Chinese communities in America, as discussed in relation to "Rock Springs"?
The absence of personal accounts makes it challenging to fully humanize early Chinese immigrants, a gap Vera Miao sought to fill with her film by using fiction to imagine their lives.
How does the film "Mom" use a pseudo-documentary approach to tell its story?
Inspired by real experiences, the film uses documentary-style techniques, real locations, and actors embodying real people to create an authentic and visceral connection with the audience.
What is the core message of the film "Mom" regarding community and resilience?
"Mom" emphasizes tolerance, hope, friendship, and family, showcasing how community support is crucial for individuals pursuing their dreams, especially during challenging times.
How does the film "Rock Springs" differentiate between a "ghost" and an "ancestor"?
The film suggests the primary difference lies in the emotion associated with them: fear versus love. Transforming fear into love through understanding past traumas leads to healing.
What role does language play in the film "Mom"?
"Mom" incorporates multiple languages to reflect its diverse community. Chen's untranslated dialogue emphasizes communication beyond words, through heart and vibration.
Show Notes
Rock Springs is a horror film that follows a young girl and her mother as they move to a remote house after the death of her father, only to discover a monster hidden in the town's history and the woods behind their house. Director Vera Miao and star Kelly Marie Tran join us to discuss the Chinese American diaspora, being Asian American women in the entertainment industry, and the importance of legacy work.
In Mam, Jerald - a self-taught chef from small-town Texas - falls in love with Vietnamese cuisine after a life-changing trip abroad, and moves to NY with one goal: to open his own restaurant. Director Nan Feix, and actors Jerald Head and Nhung Dao Head join us to discuss the importance of community, how neighborhood faces became integral characters in the film, and why Jerald and Nhung's real life story helped the film come to life.
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