Sean Wolfe – Rowing Illustrated
Aron: Hello and welcome. You’re listening to “Rowing Down the River.” On today’s show we have Sean Wolf. He is a rower who rowed for the United States of American but not in the Olympics. He has a website called “Rowing Illustrated.” He works with Wintech Racing, and King’s Racing Shell. He is the national sales director and Wintech performance team coordinator.
In this interview, we talk about him as a rower; equipment such as boats, oars; coaches and many more. To check out Sean’s website Rowing Illustrated, go to www.rowingillustrated.com or you can head to Wintech Racing where you can find out about the boats and the equipment we talk about in this interview. That website is www.wintechracing.com or kingsracingshell.com.
Hello Sean, and welcome to the show.
Sean: Thank you.
Aron: How did you get involved in rowing?
Sean: I got involved in rowing a long time ago in the fall of 1988 when I was asked to be a coxswain at Northeastern University. I got a little bit … after several years of coxswaining I got a little bigger, I tried my hand at rowing, and I’ve been rowing ever since. Couple national teams, bunch of medals, bunch of races and meeting a lot of fun people.
Aron: I see, and what is it like to be a cox?
Sean: It was fun. It was … we had some aggressive times out there in the river. You know, it was a little hard keeping the weight down after a while, so I had to get out of it.
Aron: I see, and where did you transition after the cox.
Sean: I transitioned. I ended up rowing my final year at Northeastern and then I end up rowing for Riverside Boat Club.
Aron: Okay, and was it in a single, a double, a pair, a quad, a four, an eight?
Sean: I’ve done them all. I’ve done everything from a single, double, pair, eight, I’ve raced in every boat in every weight class.
Aron: What has your favorite boat you like to row in?
Sean: Probably the single or the pair? The double is fun, too but sometimes as you get older you just don’t want to deal with all the … you could say the other egos in the boat.
Aron: Were you a lightweight or a heavyweight at that time?
Sean: I’ve always been a lightweight rower, I do race up in class to heavyweights as well. Might as well get double the amount of racing in.
Aron: Did you find that a problem with race time?
Sean: No. Not at all. I don’t mind racing heavyweights. I’ve taken down my share of them. So, no problem racing heavyweights or lightweights.
Aron: When you went into University rowing, where did you go after that?
Sean: I went to Riverside Boat Club, and that’s where I laid most of my bones in rowing. Done all my racing, pretty much at Riverside Boat Club, for Riverside Boat Club. A couple times on the national team.
Aron: I see. Looked back, did you enjoy it or do you regret it?
Sean: I still enjoy it everyday. I still row once or twice a day, everyday. Even to this day.
Aron: You know, today is about strength training, and endurance and so when you were rowing at your time, was it the exact same, or was it different?
Sean: For strength training? I mean, I’ve done both depending on the time of year, I guess I would say is when you would do endurance training to when you would do endurance weight lifting, to when you would do strength training which is mainly for those long hard months during the winter.
Aron: Tell us how you got into Wintech.
Sean: Let’s see, I run a website called Rowing Illustrated, they purchased some advertising space off me, and connections started there. Then I heard they were looking for a regional representatives and a couple conversations later I was then brought on as the Northeast regional rep.
Aron: Were you finished rowing at the time both club and internationally, or were you still tipping away?
Sean: I finished up rowing internationally by that point. I was … I’m just really I’m a mesh. I was retired as an elite rower, you could say, at that point and just rowing for the fun of it. Enjoying going out once a day mid-morning, instead of twice a day at early hours and late hours of the day.
Aron: Was Wintech your favorite boat at that time or was it something you’d just gotten used to or knew?
Sean: I was using a different brand of boat at the time … probably using a Fluid at that point. I still used the Fluids for a little bit, but over time we developed a great boat at Wintech that has really taken off. So, it’d been no problem moving to the new home. I actually just got the higher end model about two weeks ago and it’s really moving well. Probably more responsive and more … and stiffer than … not more stiffer, but stiffer than anything I’ve used in quite a long time.
Aron: And why is that?
Sean: It’s an all carbon built, all carbon rigger, all carbon boat, five points of connection from the rigger to the boats so it makes it really, really stiff and really, really [inaudible 00:05:35 ] at the front end.
Aron: Does that mean you can still get the technique power in? What’s different comparing to a Stanley or a Filippi?
Sean: I mean, those are different pulls. You know, once you go from one type of model boat to a different type of model boat you join that, you get a feel for the design shape versus how it picks up off the front end, versus how the boats sends. As some point, the design of boats become pretty inline with each other, and your more or less buying from a person you can trust and like once you get the boat design lined up. So, our design and integrity and the durability of the product is on par with all the top companies now. We put a couple companies behind us, now.
Aron: If a person was buy a boat brand new, what should they look out for or look for?
Sean: They should look for what feels comfortable. Make sure they are getting in the right size boat. I’m very careful about making sure I size a crew properly. If I don’t size them properly, then we have to switch out and get a crew into a right size hull. Size is important, comfort is important, how you row is important. With some of the boat designs, I’m still trying to understand the short boat versus the long boat discussion, but it’s how you row, how your comfortable. The company that you’re going to go with, because your going to make a big investment, you want them to be there after the purchase. If you purchase from a company that’s somewhat overseas, and they have really good representation here, what do you do? You’re sort of left there waiting for three weeks for a spare part. You’re waiting for parts. You need to be able to say, “okay, what if I need something in 24 hours, will it be there?” Hopefully, yes! How quick is that person going to pick up the phone when something goes wrong? You need to be able to get that response.
Aron: When you say size a crew, how do you do that?
Sean: You want to know what the average weight of the crew is. You want to know if it’s for women or men. You want to know, in some cases, how tall they are. What’s the biggest athlete, what’s the smallest athlete. Those are the things that you’re looking for as indicators. I’m not going to give all my secrets out because those other boat companies will pick them up, especially if they’re listening to this. So, they’re not going to get everything, but you want to get the main facts of who’s in the boat, what they’re using it for, what type of level crew is using this boat. You do not want to sell someone a Porsche when they don’t need one. Some companies will do that to you. They will sell you their high end boat to a crew that doesn’t need a high end boat.
You want the right type of shell, for the right type or crew, for the right type of reasons.
Aron: What’s the difference between a racing and a training and a recreational boats?
Sean: Training boat is … we’ll start at the bottom. We’ll start … recreational boat is just something that your just going to be … you know. Some people have a recreational boat they only need once or twice a week during the summer where they can just lug out to the pond or the river they’re staying at for the summer and they’ll row recreation-ally.
A training hull is something that’s a little bit lighter, still pretty durable. The constructions methods change a little bit as you get up to the higher end boats, but this is something that can be used … it might be a little bit heavier in construction and the materials used, but it’s going to be durable and it’s going to get the job done as far as getting crews out on the water in smaller boats, and sometimes bigger boats because you don’t have novices out there, and getting them to learn how to take correct strokes is what you learn to do in a training hull. Those are the ideas you’re looking for.
Then as you get to your racing hull, you’re now getting to the more delicate materials. You’re getting to the lighter shells, you’re getting to, you know, where everything is starting to get fine tuned in. Where you’re really getting the crew side in order. Those are the things you are looking for there at a racing boat.
In a nut shell, those are the three levels you’ll looking in to fine tune people. A racing shell is going to be used for training during the high end racing season where you need it to be very responsive, very fast.
Aron: Are the material the same? You say that the racing boat is lighter than the training but are the materials the same?
Sean: No, the materials do change, like I said. You can go to an all carbon boat, carbon riggers is the new thing where you are going light and you are going stiff. At the same point, with all the carbon materials things tend to break easier and can be damaged a little bit more. Of course they need to be a little bit more careful.
As you go down in to the training boats the materials change a little bit. You can get the Kevlar, you can get the fiberglass, with probable reinforcements, but materials do change because the boats do take on a little bit more weight and take on a little bit different durability.
Aron: Can you explain to us about the carbon and the stiffness of the boats?
Sean: What are you looking for there?
Aron: What I’m saying is, if a person’s looking at the specs of a Wintech boat and they see it’s carbon fiber and it’s stiffness what does that mean to the individual?
Sean: Carbon fiber is very light and is very stiff. So you are getting the lightest boat at the stiffest, and light and stiff equals fast. As some point you do … take the white. You need to take good strokes in order for that to become effective on the water.
Aron: I see, and if a person buys a boat and they realize they gain a few pounds over the boat or they … does that effect the condition of the boat?
Sean: You would want the boat to be at weight or slightly underweight at the time of purchase of a racing shell. You can’t really take weight out of a boat once it’s overweight. You can always add weight to a boat to bring it up to weight. Or, if it’s at weight already, you are right there. There are season minimums for racing shells that you do need to have. US Rowing has minimums as well, so you can probably take a look at whatever World Rowing has for minimums as well as US Rowing has for minimums on weights on boats.
Aron: Okay, and Wintech, they have quick release riggers. How did they … are they made of pure metal or carbon? How are they made?
Sean: Quick release is a mechanical function on a aluminum rigger. We’re getting away from the quick release format there. Poses a problem. It’s easy to use once you know how to use it, but it takes time to know how to use it. I recommend going with bolts on riggers and for most of my boats except for training hulls where you’re going back and forth from sweep rowing to stone rowing. That’s where the quick release comes in fashion there. People have been doing quick release options on boats for years. It’s … everyone has a different method for doing it but for high end racing boats and things like that you want to take the question out of the … you want to take that 1% out of their mind where quick release could possibly fail, and it has failed. I prefer bolt lug. It makes the boat feel a little bit steadier but I’ve had to row with quick release and been successful with it. It’s more or less what you’re using the boat for rather than what the function is or what it’s made of.
Aron: And why are they a problem?
Sean: Not necessarily a problem. As anything with a lot of moving parts, moving parts can fail. It’s not just us. I know that there are other boat companies out there, I’m not going to name names here, but they had quick release foot stretchers, or they have spring loaded foot stretchers and things like that that can fail given time. I mean, if it’s your own individual boat, that’s probably fine, but the more people get in and out of your boat, the more things can fail.
Aron: I know Wintech just released oars, do you use Wintech oars, do you use Concept? What are your preferred oars?
Sean: I’ve used every oar there is. Right now I’m current using Croker Arrow oars and I love them, I think they’re fine. I’ve used Dreher oars when I was at my fastest and that was more upon me being fast than anything. I’ve used Concept 2 oars, I’ve used Wintech oars, I’ve used everything. I try everything. Oars, you have to get used to, but as some point you have to go get into a boat, adjust the oars correctly and then go. You can’t blame the equipment but right now I am currently using Croker Arrow and I think they’re a great solid oar. Probably the best oar tracking through the water I’ve ever used. I have not tried the new Wintech skin oar yet, I know we just had a prototype out, I have not tried it. I would like to get my hands on that as well, and try that and see how I like that as well. Like I said, I’ve used every oar to success and to the losses as well. So it’s not always upon the oar.
Aron: Do you use, like, stroke coach in your boat as well?
Sean: I use an encased SpeedCoach GPS. Love it! Got the newest one. Got it about a month ago. Great, great features. Good read out, good memory. No issues with is whatsoever. It’s great, great product.
Aron: As a rower, should someone buy a stoke coach? Is it important in the boat?
Sean: If you’re stalling, yes. I recommend it. It’s up to you and what you’re trying to get out of your rowing to decide what equipment that you need, I guess it the answer there. If you need feedback every stroke, it’s there. If you need feedback every minute, it’s there. Some people use an iPhone with an app on it. I don’t use my iPhone in a boat, because I don’t want it to get called in my boat, because it will ring, so I prefer to leave my iPhone with all my contacts and everything back on shore so I can enjoy my row, but I recommend an encased SpeedCoach, I have the GPS the newest model. I forget what it’s called and I apologize to Ben Churchill for that, he’ll probably be upset with me, but it’s great.
Aron: I noticed that the adaptive rowers use, I know it’s an adaptive rower because I’m vision impaired myself and we use Wintech. Is that a common thing you guys see?
Sean: Adaptive rowers use our equipment? Yes. We were backers of the US rowing and supplying boats and we do supply boats as adaptive boats to everyone. I mean it’s basically our explore 21 and 24 modified with adapted seats that make the boats usable for adaptive athletes. [inaudible 00:15:34 ] in Boston does have 21 of our adaptive boats and they use recreation-ally and for adaptive athletes.
Aron: Okay, and I noticed the rail is wider than a Filippi or Stanfy. Is that just a design aspect, or is it something that you guys thought about?
Sean: I would say that’s a design aspect.
Aron: Okay, excellent. When you were rowing for American where did you row? Which position and which boat?
Sean: I rode in the lightweight men’s pair and in the lightweight men’s quad.
Aron: I see and you get to the Olympics?
Sean: No, there are no Olympics for those boat classes there. Let’s put it like this: for a national team, we’d probably have to be in the top three or four, I would even say five percent, of grouping. You get the the Olympic class, you pretty much have to be the top 1% and those guys have earned every bit of their Olympic class stature and I was not up to that level.
Aron: And how did you feel about that?
Sean: You want to know something, at some point you just have to sort of look at yourself and say, “hey, I’m not an Olympic athlete.” Those guys are much better and much more determined and I also think age is playing into a role. My life at that point, as I was getting into my mid thirties, but those men and women who are Olympic athletes are something special.
Aron: What do you think makes them special? Just the training?
Sean: Some people are freaks and can just be total athletes. Some people work very very hard at becoming an Olympic athlete and give up a lot and sacrifice a lot and it’s sort of a mix. There’s people all over. I’ve seen people who I did not think would be an Olympic athlete become Olympic athletes, I saw people who I thought would be Olympic athletes did not become Olympic athletes. I don’t know exactly, but I’ve only seen from afar. I’ve never been to an Olympics. I’ve been in boats with Olympians but, you know, they’re special. They’re a special breed of person.
Aron: What was is like being in the boat with Olympic guys?
Sean: He needed to learn how to row better. He just had a better explorer than I did he was a bit of a meat head. I’m kidding. He didn’t know he was going to be an Olympic athlete at that point, but you want to know what, they’re all rowers … I don’t know how to put it. There’s nothing special about being in a boat with an Olympic athlete. Not unless you’re at the Olympics trying the [inaudible 00:17:47 ] and working hard in a training camp with Olympic athletes. That’s where is comes through. I was rowing with excellent teams, we were all sort of on our way going down in the training event rather than going up in the training at that point.
Aron: Who was your coach that coached you in your rowing club?
Sean: Oh, I’ve had dozens and dozens of coaches. I’ve had so many coaches it’s crazy. I’ve hired coaches, I’ve fired coaches, I’ve thought some coaches were great, I’ve thought some coaches needed work and I’ve watched some coaches go from horrible coaches to great coaches. I have had a lot of coaches. Thanks to all of them out there. I just had dinner with one of my old coaches, Steve Sawyer, it was probably a big one in my rowing career. My old pair partner Tom Keisha was a rowing coach, Linda Muery was a rowing coach, my … I could go on and on about all the rowing coaches I’ve had.
Aron: Did any of them inspire you or influence your rowing?
Sean: Did anyone inspire me to row?
Sean: Yeah. Inspire … I don’t know it that’s a word I would use about … I mean I’ve have people I’ve looked up to, like Linda Muery. I’ve had people I’ve looked up to … I could even say I looked up to Mike T. I’ve looked up to a billion coaches. I think inspiration is taken upon yourself. You have to inspire yourself to row.
Aron: Okay, and did any of those influence the way you rowed?
Sean: Every single one of my coaches has influenced the way I rowed. Some for the good, some for the better. You know, the names I’ve mentioned before have inspired me to do great things. There are some coaches, Chris Gordinowski, you know. The man who, probably laid it pretty quickly to me about how much I needed to work on my rowing in order to get through the next level. Then there are people who have only affected me technically and maybe a technical row, like Linda Muery, [inaudible 00:19:39 ] teacher or people who have given me the solid background and detail like Steve Sawyer. There’s just so many like Agile Wilhelm, who had his own influence on my rowing. Like I said, every coach has given me the … I’ve taken something from every coach.
Aron: Okay, I see.
Sean: You have to.
Aron: Yeah, you do indeed. Out of all the coaches that around the world, was there one particular coach that you really wanted to row with or be with?
Sean: Let’s see. I don’t know. I don’t think so. I think I’ve gotten the most out of it. Now if you asked me places where I wanted to row, that’s a different story. As far as coaching, don’t know. I’ve never looked at someone … I’ve had Charlie Butte but given me great things to think about he was considered guru coaching. I’ve had Chris Gordinowski give me something to think about. I’ve had Mike Tadee give me stuff to think about. I’ve had all my coaches give me stuff to think about they just started … one coach I’d love to work with … it’s … I’ve never sat in there … I’ve sat in a billion, billion conferences now and you know, I hear a lot from a lot of different coaches and take a little bit of something from each one. Every one has something to offer.
Aron: Do you row sweep or skull?
Sean: I can do both! Like I said, I rowed on the national team in the pair, I rowed on the national team in sculling. I prefer sculling on my own right now, because it’s my own schedule and I don’t get in arguments with anyone but myself in the boat, so it’s a little better for me to skull, but I do sweeper a couple times a year and I enjoy it. I’ve rowed with some great people in sweep boats.
Aron: Is there anybody in the world that you would like to row with?
Sean: Anyone in the world I would love to row with? I don’t know. You know, there’s some buddies of mine that I wouldn’t mind rowing with that I haven’t rowed with that are good rowers. I jump in boats of anyone who’s good that won’t get me injured at this age. So, as long as their not … they have some good abilities I’m happy to row with them. I’m not … I’ve rowed with a lot of good people, I’ve been pleasantly surprised by some and pleasantly disappointed by others, but it’s … there’s no one I look forward to rowing with. I like rowing with my friends who know how to row, and I can trust.
Aron: Did you pick up any injuries during your career?
Sean: Not too many injuries, knock on wood. I’ve tweaked my back or so every once in a while, I’ve tweaked a muscle. Nothing too serious. I got hit by a car a long time ago, and that was probably the worst injuries I ever sustained in my life. Some say it made me smarter, but I got a skull fracture from that, I had a separated shoulder, broken shoulder, broken back muscle. That was probably the worst and I came out of that okay. As far as rowing injuries, knock on wood, everything’s okay right now.
Aron: Excellent. You said you had a rowing podcast. Explain a bit about that to us.
Sean: I run a rowing website called Rowing Illustrated. I do rowing podcasts with all sort of people, anyone from Olympians to coaches to college to international athletes. From Matthew Pinsent, Andrew Campbell, Mike T, Tom Terhaar, all sorts of people have been on the show and enjoyed it.
Aron: How did that come about?
Sean: Just working and trying new things. Just thought I’d get into podcasting, and push the right buttons and we were able to start and then we were able to record and get things done. Sometimes you just got to ask people for an interview, and sometimes they say yes and sometimes they won’t even respond.
Aron: Yeah. Over the time of having that podcast, did you learn anything that kind of wowed you?
Sean: Have I learned anything since it started? I’ve learned a lot, I’ve learned keep it simple, make it easy, and that goes for rowing as well as the podcast. Let people enjoy the sport and ask the right questions when you’re doing the podcast. Don’t make it boring, don’t ask the question everyone else is asking.
Aron: Do you take the tips and apply to your own technique and skills as a rower?
Sean: Sure! Sure, you can always get better. You can always get better at everything is what I tell people. I’ve gotten better just by watching a novice launch a boat. I learned something. You can learn something any day from anyone. You’d be surprised and as you get older you realize that. When you are younger, you don’t always realize it. You think you know everything, but guess what? You can learn from everybody at any given point.
Aron: Amazing. When you were younger, did you want to do everything you could or were you kind of relaxed as a young fella?
Sean: Everything I could? I don’t know. Sure, I probably wanted to be an Olympian, sure I wanted to be on a … I guess I hit my bullets. I wanted to be in the national team, I got on the national team. I wanted to get back on the national team, I got back on the national team. I wanted to row well, I wanted to row with good people; I’ve done that. I’ve wanted to learn a lot about the sport, and now I like to give back to the sport and now I get to do what I love by working in my field.
Aron: I see. Is there many different techniques you do, or is it just the simple catch, drive, finish?
Sean: Oh, getting into technique we could be here forever. Keep it simple. Keep it simple and don’t over think it. There’s no magic bullet in rowing. Hard work, basic technique, putting it in at the catch light, and accelerate through the drive. Don’t over think it, there’s no magic bullet to rowing.
Aron: Why is there no magic bullet?
Sean: There just isn’t. Every one who is looking for a magic bullet move, they usually haven’t done the work. It all comes down to how much work you’re going to do.
Aron: Okay. Fascinating. Does the oar … you said that different oars do different things. Does the oar participate … if you want to have like the best oar, does that help the technique or is it just the same?
Sean: Now, you can say it’s the equipment, you can say it’s whatever, but you want to know something? I received an email from a coach just the other day. Ordinarily say good work because we both know that it gives the rower that moves the boat, regardless of quality of vessel. There you go. Pretty simple statement. From a coach. So, it’s all about the rower. You can row in an old wooden boat and beat the hell out of someone who has a $12,000 brand new empacher.
Sean: Get the right equipment, get it from the right people, get it from someone who’s going to stand behind you and then you’ll be successful as long as you do the work.
Aron: Does the bigger the boat tell … is there any improvement or is just a standard boat is a singular or a pair or a double?
Sean: Size of the boat does matter. Size of the material? Is that what you said as well?
Sean: Size of the material, I’m confused but I would say the material of the boat and the size of the boat go hand in hand as long as it fits the rower. Everything has to fit the rower, and the rower has to be comfortable.
Aron: I see, and how can the rower be comfortable?
Sean: As far as where the feet are adjusted to, as far as the boat size fitting them. You have to be in the right size boat, if the boat is too big or too small then it won’t work for you. Unfortunately, some people do have that issue because they can’t always afford to buy what they need. So, yes how a boat is set up comes down to the coach. Coach needs to make sure that the … see, here’s the thing. Rig for comfort and you’ll find speed. So, I’m not necessarily a rigger, I can’t tell people how to rig, but a good coach told me that “rig for comfort and you will find speed and then you can make small adjustments.”
Aron: Okay, so doesn’t really matter if your feet or stretchers all the way towards the front and your oar handles are very wide, it’s just comfort.
Sean: It all depends on what style your rowing. Eight rowers can do all the same things wrong and be successful. You’d be surprised. So, but it’s all upon the way the coach wants to set the crew up. Do I have my preferences? Yes, but that’s based on my body type. Do other people have their preferences? Yes. No one is right or wrong because you will see people win in different ways.
Aron: Do you think a rower should go towards the science, like the lactate test and the VO2 max, or just continue their kind of style of training?
Sean: At an elite level, you need to have … I would VO2 Max testing, and lactate testing, yes. At an elite level. If that’s what you aspire to you should be doing lactate testing and you should be doing the VO2 Max testing.
Aron: I see. So, if you’re not aiming towards that level it’s just your standard training?
Sean: Right. There’s no use wasting your money if you’re just going to be out there recreation-ally training.
Sean: If you’re going to be an elite rower, you need to know those numbers and how to train more efficiently.
Aron: Did you want to become a rower, or did it come about, or … explain to us.
Sean: Did I want to become a rower? I sort of fell into the sport. I became a coxwain first, and then became a rower. Once I was a coxwain, I knew I wanted to row, once I got too big, I knew I could row. So, I took it upon myself to row.
Aron: Were you very young at that time or were you at a certain age?
Sean: I was in my early teens to mid twenties as a coxwain in my early twenties. From my mid twenties to now, I row. So, I’ve been rowing since I’ve enjoyed it.
Aron: Okay, and what skills should a rower have?
Sean: I would suggest perseverance. I would suggest the ability to wake up early. I would suggest the ability to follow details. The ability to listen, the ability to change are the things you need to become a good rower. And the ability to do the work hard and not be afraid.
Aron: Okay, excellent. Looking back, would you change anything?
Sean: No. I wouldn’t change anything. You become a certain point in your life where you’re happy with what you’ve done and what you’re doing. Yes, I sound like an old person now but would I change anything? No. I’ve learned a lot from everything I’ve done and can hopefully pass along to those younger than me, so they can have more successful careers than I’ve had.
Aron: Do you have anything planned or events coming up in the year?
Sean: Just my normal regatta schedule. Head of the Charles is coming up, the Red Bull event, Red Bull highest stakes event will be back next August. So, I guess just my normal racing and travel and regatta schedule and that’s about it. You’ll see me at all the big regattas and I’ll be following them online for the most part as well. For the ones I can’t make it.
Aron: Where can we find you and your website and what you do?
Sean: You can find rowingillustrated.com. All the instruction takes place on the board section, but rowingillustrated.com. You can get me at Sean@Wintechraching.com, if you have boat questions and just general questions in general but that’s where you can find me. Or at the local bar after a big race. That’s where you’ll find me a lot.
Aron: With the Olympics coming up, do you have any rowers in mind that could be a dark horse, or someone that you’re looking out to watch.
Sean: I’m watching the USA team and I’m hoping they’re kicking the crap out of Great British team.
Aron: Is there any particular rower you have in mind, or is it just watch everybody?
Sean: I watch them all. I watch every single race that they allow me to race. They’ll allow me to watch, sorry. I’m not racing anything, but I’ll watch every race that I can watch and my wife will so much hate that, but I will watch every skeet, every semi, every rep, every final during the Olympics.
Aron: I just want to say thank you very much, Sean, for taking the time to come onto the show and share what you go to share.
Sean: No problem! Feel free to call and ask me anything ever again. It’s pretty good.
Aron: Sure, excellent.
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