It’s a big week on the podcast! Katie celebrated her 40th birthday with a huge bash thrown by her hubby, Jason. Meanwhile, Hallie is celebrating back-to-school season and all the free time she has now that her toddler is back in pre-K.

The mamas break down some of the big headlines this week, including Kim Kardashian’s latest parenting choice. The reality star is facing criticism after fans noticed that her 12-year-old daughter, North West, received a dermal piercing on her middle finger. Critics expressed concerns about North’s age and the potential risks, including healing difficulties, the piercing being easily ripped out, and an increased chance of infection.

Meanwhile, Briana DeJesus from Teen Mom shared several videos on Snapchat showing her and her 14-year-old daughter, Nova, getting matching nose piercings for Nova’s birthday. She defended the decision online, saying that her daughter is a great kid, a straight-A student, and that while she was hesitant at first, she ultimately felt her teenage daughter deserved it—as long as she keeps her grades up and stays out of trouble.

Hallie and Katie weigh in and reveal when they think it’s appropriate for parents to let their kids get piercings. They also reflect on the first time they saw their husbands’ bachelor pads, following Kylie Kelce’s hilarious revelation about her now-husband, Jason Kelce.

And with school back in session, Hallie and Katie dive into Kim Kardashian’s comments about homework. During a livestream conversation filmed over the weekend, the SKIMS founder said she isn’t a fan of homework. Kim, who shares four children with her ex, Kanye West, explained that kids already spend eight hours at school and need time afterward for sports, life, and family—adding that she believes homework should be done in school.

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