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Show 1397: The Surprising Secrets of Sunlight’s Health Benefits (Archive)

Show 1397: The Surprising Secrets of Sunlight’s Health Benefits (Archive)

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In this episode, our guest is a dermatologist who wants us to consider sunlight’s health benefits. That is a minority opinion among dermatologists. Dr. Richard Weller tells us why vitamin D is overrated and not the most important aspect of sun exposure.


At The People’s Pharmacy, we bring you the latest research-backed insights on health, even when they challenge established views. In this episode, Dr. Richard Weller highlights how moderate sunlight may offer unexpected health benefits while placing melanoma risk in context. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider before making changes to your sun exposure habits or medical care.


You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org). Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on Sept. 1, 2025.


The Secrets of Sunlight’s Health Benefits:


Dermatologists generally advise us to stay out of the sun as much as possible. After all, excessive sun exposure causes skin aging and skin cancer, conditions for which people frequently consult them. However, even if we could all live inside, wear protective clothing and high SPF sunscreen whenever we ventured out, would that be wise?


According to our guest, Dr. Richard Weller, and his colleagues, “insufficient sun exposure has become a real public health problem” (International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, July 13, 2020). While this problem is more acute in Europe than the US, they still estimate that more than 300,000 Americans die each year due to inadequate sun on their skin. What is going on?


How Does Sunlight Affect Skin?


For decades, we have heard that the principal effect of sunlight on skin is the production of vitamin D. Therefore, the dermatologists have concluded, rather than take the risk of exposing skin to sunshine, why not just swallow vitamin D supplements?


The problem with that proposal is that it hasn’t worked very well. Many studies show that people with low levels of circulating vitamin D are more vulnerable to high blood pressure, atrial fibrillation, heart disease, diabetes and infections, among other problems.


However, people who take vitamin D supplements don’t always get the expected benefits.  Perhaps vitamin D is a marker for sun exposure rather than the most important outcome.


Human Evolution and Skin Color:


Humans evolved in Africa, where dark skin is an advantage, offering protection from the most harmful effects of ultraviolet radiation. By about 60,000 years ago, people were migrating to other parts of the world. Yet analyses suggest that although they arrived in Europe by about 40,000 years ago, genes for pale skin didn’t become common until less than 10,000 years ago.


Anthropologists have hypothesized that pale skin is an adaptation to inadequate sunlight in northern regions. Because vitamin D is a well-recognized consequence of sunlight on skin, they have assumed that was the driver. Dr. Weller suggests that nitric oxide was (and still is) more important. He notes that the evolution of pale skin happens around the same time that people begin to cluster together in farming communities, where they are more likely to be exposed to infectious diseases.


Is Nitric Oxide the Source of Sunlight’s Health Benefits?


In 1996, Dr. Weller was the first scientist to find that human skin creates a compound called nitric oxide (NO) under sunlight. This compound is then absorbed into the skin, where it helps relax blood vessels and lower blood pressure. Here is a link to his TED talk on the topic.


This is where Dr. Weller’s approach differs from that of more conventional dermatologists. With proper caveats that the US is at much lower latitudes, in general, than most of Europe, he proposes that more sunlight, not less, could lower mortality rates. (Lower latitudes get more sunshine.) His analysis was just published in the prestigious Journal of Investigative Dermatology (August 2024).


The data underpinning this claim are from an analysis of the UK Biobank, a remarkable treasure trove of information. Dr. Weller and his colleagues have found that in the UK, people who get more sunlight are less likely to die within a specified time frame. We call that lower all-cause mortality.


You can read the research report here (Health & Place, Sept. 2024).  It was discussed in this article in The Economist (Aug. 12, 2024).


This Week’s Guest:


Richard Weller, MD, FRCP(Ed), is Professor of Medical Dermatology at the University of Edinburgh. He holds the Personal Chair of Medical Dermatology in the Deanery of Clinical Sciences.  He is also Honorary Consultant Dermatologist at NHS Lothian and Principal Investigator at the Centre for Inflammation Research.


Dr. Weller serves as Programme Director for the M Med Sci at the University of Edinburgh and is President of the Scottish Dermatology Society. He is the Clinical Lead for the Dermatology Speciality Group at NHS Research Scotland, the Global Health Academy and Edinburgh Imaging.


Listen to the Podcast:


The podcast of this program will be available Monday, Sept. 1, 2025, after broadcast on Aug. 30. You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free.


Learn More:


Dr. Weller kindly shared links to some research by his colleagues that he mentioned during the show.


Here is an article by Joel Gelfland showing the benefits of home phototherapy for psoriasis.


This article by Adewole Adamson presents evidence that dark skin is not susceptible to UV-induced melanoma.


Download the mp3 of the show, or listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.


Transcript of Show 1397: The Surprising Secrets of Sunlight’s Health Benefits


A transcript of this show was created using automated speech-to-text software (AI-powered transcription), then carefully reviewed and edited for clarity. While we’ve done our best to ensure both readability and accuracy, please keep in mind that some mistakes may remain. This transcript is copyrighted material. All rights reserved. No part of this transcript may be reproduced, distributed, or transmitted in any form without prior written permission.


Joe

00:00-00:01

I’m Joe Graedon.


Terry

00:01-00:05

And I’m Terry Graedon. Welcome to this podcast of the People’s Pharmacy.


Joe

00:06-00:27

You can find previous podcasts and more information on a range of health topics at peoplespharmacy.com. Do you avoid the sun? We’ve all heard that we should wear sunscreen all the time and stay inside from 10 till 2. This is the People’s Pharmacy with Terry and Joe Graedon.


Terry

00:33-00:45

Are there hidden health benefits from sunlight? Is it all about vitamin D? Why don’t supplements protect people against heart disease, cancer, diabetes, or depression?


Joe

00:45-00:52

New research suggests that some sun exposure may be helpful. Our dermatologist guest has done fascinating research.


Dr. Richard Weller

00:53-01:04

We have showed in Britain that after accounting for confounding factors, other factors, the more sunlight people have, the longer they live.


Joe

01:04-01:10

Coming up on the People’s Pharmacy, the surprising secrets of sunlight’s health benefits.


Terry

01:14-02:31

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Show 1397: The Surprising Secrets of Sunlight’s Health Benefits (Archive)

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