In this special episode of Heat Exchanger, we gather the second-place finishers

from the 2025 Grid Life Championships for a candid roundtable discussion.

Featuring Sam Dealing (Sunday Cup), AJ Hartman (GL GT), Mario Rise (Club TYA),

Ryan Matthews (Street GT), and Josh Halka (Street Class), we dive deep into

what it takes to compete at the highest levels of time attack racing.

Inspired by Nikki Lauda's famous quote about learning more from losing than

winning, our guests share what they have learned from this season and their future plans,

discuss the rule changes coming for 2025, reveal their off-season plans, and

debate everything from tire compounds to transmission swaps. Whether you're a

seasoned time attack competitor or just getting started, this episode offers

invaluable insights into the mindset, preparation, and camaraderie that defines

Grid Life competition.