Digest

This podcast delves into the growing security concerns surrounding large language models (LLMs), particularly the threat of model stealing. The discussion highlights the shift from hypothetical scenarios to real-world attacks, driven by the widespread use of LLMs in production environments. The podcast explores the concept of differential privacy and its application in large-scale pre-training of LLMs, emphasizing the limitations of fine-tuning with differential privacy and the potential for privacy violations due to pre-training data memorization. The podcast also discusses the implications of model stealing attacks, including the potential for unauthorized access to sensitive information and the need for robust security measures to protect LLMs from these threats.

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Model Stealing and the Evolution of Large Language Models

This chapter explores the evolving landscape of large language models (LLMs) and the growing importance of model stealing as a security concern. The discussion highlights the shift from hypothetical scenarios to real-world attacks, driven by the widespread use of LLMs in production environments.

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Differential Privacy and its Limitations in LLM Security

This chapter delves into the concept of differential privacy and its application in large-scale pre-training of LLMs. The discussion focuses on the limitations of fine-tuning with differential privacy and the potential for privacy violations due to pre-training data memorization.

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Q&A

• How has the landscape of large language models evolved since you started studying them?

  The field has shifted from focusing on hypothetical security problems to addressing real-world attacks, as LLMs are now widely used in production environments.

• What is model stealing, and how does it differ from training data extraction?

  Model stealing aims to extract a copy of the model itself, while training data extraction focuses on recovering the data the model was trained on. Model stealing harms the model owner, while data extraction poses privacy risks to the individuals whose data was used.

• How does the attack described in the paper work, and what makes it effective?

  The attack exploits the fact that the output space of a language model is often a low-dimensional subspace of the full token space. By querying the model with various inputs and analyzing the output distributions, the researchers can recover the final projection matrix, which represents the last layer of the model.

• What are the implications of the attack, and how have OpenAI and Google responded?

  The attack demonstrates the vulnerability of LLMs to model stealing and has led OpenAI and Google to implement mitigations by limiting the ability to access the full probability distribution of output tokens and restricting the use of logit bias.

• What are the limitations of fine-tuning with differential privacy, and what are the potential privacy concerns?

  Fine-tuning with differential privacy only protects the data used in the fine-tuning phase, not the pre-training data. This can lead to privacy violations if the pre-trained model has memorized sensitive information from the original training dataset.

• What are the future directions for research in this area?

  Future research will focus on developing more robust attacks that can overcome current mitigations, exploring ways to steal multiple layers of the model, and investigating the implications of these attacks for different LLM architectures.

Show Notes