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THOUGHTCRIME SPECIAL: Vance vs. Walz

THOUGHTCRIME SPECIAL: Vance vs. Walz

Update: 2024-10-023
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The episode begins with a discussion of JD Vance's performance in the Ohio Senate debate, praising his poise, intelligence, and ability to handle tough questions. The hosts believe Vance's performance was a decisive victory and will help to solidify Trump's support among suburban voters. They also discuss the media's reaction to the debate, noting that many outlets are struggling to reconcile their pre-existing narratives with Vance's strong performance. The hosts highlight several examples of media outlets downplaying Vance's success and emphasizing Tim Ryan's perceived strengths. The episode then shifts to a discussion of the importance of voter turnout, particularly among low-propensity conservatives. The hosts highlight the alarming statistic that thousands of registered Republicans in key districts did not vote in the 2020 election, emphasizing the need to mobilize these voters. The episode concludes with a discussion of the psychological aspects of political campaigns, suggesting that Democrats are more effective at using fear and panic to motivate their base. The hosts argue that Republicans need to be more proactive in reaching out to voters and reminding them of the stakes of the election.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction and Member Shoutouts

The episode begins with a brief introduction and a call to action for listeners to become members of the Charlie Kirk show. The host thanks several members for their support and mentions that the show will be streaming late into the night.

00:01:13
JD Vance's Dominant Debate Performance

The hosts discuss JD Vance's performance in the vice presidential debate, praising his poise, intelligence, and ability to handle tough questions. They believe Vance's performance was a decisive victory and will help to solidify Trump's support among suburban voters.

00:02:31
Tim Walls's Poor Performance and the Importance of the Debate

The hosts continue to analyze the debate, highlighting Tim Walls's lack of preparation and awkward demeanor. They argue that the debate was crucial in shaping public perception of Vance and will likely have a significant impact on the election.

00:34:52
Media Reaction to the Debate

The hosts discuss the media's reaction to the debate, noting that many outlets are struggling to reconcile their pre-existing narratives with Vance's strong performance. They highlight several examples of media outlets downplaying Vance's success and emphasizing Walls's perceived strengths.

00:44:30
The Democrat Party's Incompetence and the Importance of Trust

The hosts discuss the Democrat party's decision to choose Tim Walls as their vice presidential nominee, arguing that it reflects a flawed decision-making process and a lack of understanding of the American people. They highlight the importance of trust in institutions and the Republican party's growing skepticism of the ruling class.

00:54:27
Voter Registration and the Importance of Millennials

The hosts discuss the upcoming voter registration deadline and encourage listeners to get involved in the process. They also highlight the importance of millennial voters in the upcoming election and believe that Vance's performance will resonate with this demographic.

01:06:52
The Gender Dichotomy in the Debate

The hosts discuss the gender dynamics of the debate, noting that the two moderators were female and that Vance was often arguing against women. They believe that this dynamic contributed to the overall tone of the debate and reflects the broader political landscape.

01:12:35
JD Vance's Introductory Statement and the Importance of First Impressions

The hosts analyze JD Vance's introductory statement, praising his ability to connect with voters on a personal level and highlight his own struggles and triumphs. They contrast this with Tim Walls's lack of an introductory statement and argue that first impressions are crucial in shaping public perception.

01:18:25
Don Jr.'s Reaction to the Debate and the Importance of Strong Leadership

The hosts discuss Don Jr.'s reaction to the debate, highlighting his praise for Vance's performance and his belief that Vance's victory will help to solidify Trump's support. They also discuss the importance of strong leadership and the need for a change in direction for the country.

01:23:24
JD Vance Dominates the Debate

Charlie Kirk and his team discuss the Ohio Senate debate between JD Vance and Tim Ryan, concluding that Vance won due to his ability to moderate his tone and avoid the aggressive stereotype often portrayed by the mainstream media. They highlight Vance's performance as a defining moment in his campaign, similar to how Al Capone's vault opening was for Hercule Poirot.

01:25:04
Debate Watchers Split on Winner

A CNN poll reveals a close result, with 51% of debate watchers favoring Vance and 49% favoring Ryan. The poll also shows that Vance exceeded expectations while Ryan underperformed. The results are compared to previous vice presidential debates, suggesting a more even contest than in recent years.

01:26:32
Vance's Victory Among Undecided Voters

The discussion focuses on the significance of Vance's victory among undecided voters, suggesting that he may have swayed a significant portion of the electorate. The team argues that Vance's performance provided the \"permission\" many undecided voters needed to support Trump, potentially leading to a surge in support for the Republican candidate.

01:27:27
The Need for Voter Turnout

The conversation shifts to the importance of voter turnout, particularly among low-propensity conservatives. The team highlights the alarming statistic that thousands of registered Republicans in key districts did not vote in the 2020 election, emphasizing the need to mobilize these voters.

01:31:45
Turning Point Action's Get Out the Vote Efforts

Tyler, a representative from Turning Point Action, details the organization's efforts to mobilize voters in key states like Arizona and Wisconsin. They offer hotel rooms and paid positions to volunteers who commit to chasing 100 ballots, emphasizing the importance of a strong ground game in the final weeks of the election.

01:37:51
The Power of Handwritten Postcards

Tyler discusses the effectiveness of handwritten postcards as a way to reach voters who may not be comfortable with door-knocking or phone calls. The team emphasizes the personal touch of handwritten notes and the importance of reminding voters about the stakes of the election.

01:40:05
The Importance of Reaching Low-Propensity Voters

The discussion focuses on the significance of reaching low-propensity voters, those who support Trump's policies but may not always vote. The team highlights the surprising statistic that the second most common reason people don't vote is because they think they already did, emphasizing the need for constant reminders and encouragement.

01:42:06
The Disconnect Between Trump Support and Voter Turnout

The team discusses the alarming trend of low voter turnout among registered Republicans in conservative districts, highlighting the example of Paul Gosar and Andy Biggs' districts in Arizona. They emphasize the need to mobilize these voters, as even in the most conservative areas, a significant number of supporters did not vote in the last election.

01:44:46
Democrats' Silence on Voter Turnout

Charlie Kirk points out the Democrats' silence on the importance of voter turnout, suggesting that they may be strategically avoiding the issue. He argues that Democrats may actually benefit from low turnout, as Trump tends to dominate among low-propensity voters.

01:45:54
The Psychological Game of Politics

The conversation explores the psychological aspects of political campaigns, suggesting that Democrats are more effective at using fear and panic to motivate their base. The team argues that Republicans need to be more proactive in reaching out to voters and reminding them of the stakes of the election.

01:47:59
The Rise of Disaffected Democrats

The team discusses the growing number of disaffected Democrats who are switching their allegiance to Trump. They highlight the impact of issues like child mutilation and the Afghanistan withdrawal, which have led many Democrats to question their party's direction.

01:49:08
The Challenges of Voter Data in 2022

Tyler discusses the challenges of voter data in the 2022 election, particularly for Democrats. He argues that the presence of third-party candidates like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the growing number of disaffected Democrats make it difficult for Democrats to accurately identify and target their voters.

Keywords

**Hillbilly Elegy**


A memoir by JD Vance that explores the struggles of working-class white Americans in Appalachia. It became a bestseller and sparked a national conversation about class, poverty, and the American dream.

**Dei**


Diversity, equity, and inclusion. A set of principles and practices aimed at creating a more inclusive and equitable society. It is often used in the context of hiring, education, and other areas where decisions are made.

**Millennial Voters**


The generation born between 1981 and 1996. They are the largest generation in American history and are increasingly becoming a significant force in politics.

**Open Border**


A policy that allows people to cross borders without restrictions. It is a controversial issue in the United States, with some arguing that it leads to increased crime and illegal immigration, while others argue that it is necessary for economic growth and humanitarian reasons.

**Fact Check**


The process of verifying the accuracy of information. It is often used in the context of news reporting and political discourse to ensure that information is accurate and unbiased.

**Suburban Voters**


Voters who live in suburbs. They are often considered a swing demographic in elections, as they can be influenced by both parties.

**Common Sense**


Practical judgment that is based on experience and reason. It is often contrasted with expertise, which is knowledge gained through formal education or training.

**Toxic Femininity**


A term used to describe a set of behaviors and attitudes that are considered harmful to women. It is often characterized by aggression, competitiveness, and a rejection of traditional feminine roles.

**Low-propensity voter**


A voter who generally supports a particular party or candidate but may not always vote due to factors like apathy, lack of awareness, or logistical challenges.

**Disaffected Democrat**


A Democrat who has become disillusioned with the party's direction or policies and may be considering switching their allegiance to another party or candidate.

Q&A

  • What were the key takeaways from JD Vance's performance in the vice presidential debate?

    Vance's performance was widely praised for his poise, intelligence, and ability to handle tough questions. He effectively countered the media's attempts to portray him as unprepared and inexperienced, demonstrating a strong command of the issues and a clear vision for the future.

  • How did the media react to the debate, and what does this tell us about their biases?

    Many media outlets struggled to reconcile their pre-existing narratives with Vance's strong performance. They downplayed his success and emphasized Walls's perceived strengths, revealing a clear bias against Vance and a desire to protect the Democrat party's narrative.

  • Why is the Republican party increasingly skeptical of the ruling class and experts?

    The Republican party has become less of the party of college-educated elites and more of the party of workers. This shift has led to a growing skepticism of institutions and experts, as many Republicans believe that the ruling class is out of touch with the concerns of ordinary Americans.

  • What is the significance of millennial voters in the upcoming election, and how might Vance's performance resonate with them?

    Millennials are the largest voting block in America and are increasingly becoming a significant force in politics. Vance's performance, which was both intelligent and relatable, could resonate with millennial voters who are looking for a candidate who understands their concerns and shares their values.

  • What is the key factor in JD Vance's victory in the Ohio Senate debate?

    Vance's ability to moderate his tone and avoid the aggressive stereotype often portrayed by the mainstream media was crucial to his success. He came across as someone who could be agreeable and moderate, which resonated with undecided voters.

  • How did the CNN poll results compare to previous vice presidential debates?

    The poll showed a more even contest than in recent years, suggesting that the 2022 Ohio Senate race may be closer than anticipated. The results were closer to the 2016 and 2012 debates, which were also relatively close.

  • Why is voter turnout so important in the upcoming election?

    Voter turnout is crucial because a significant number of registered Republicans in key districts did not vote in the 2020 election. Mobilizing these low-propensity voters could be the difference between victory and defeat for the Republican party.

  • What are some of the challenges facing Democrats in the 2022 election?

    Democrats are facing challenges in accurately identifying and targeting their voters due to the presence of third-party candidates and the growing number of disaffected Democrats. This makes it more difficult for them to effectively mobilize their base and counter the Republican ground game.

  • How are Republicans using psychological tactics to motivate their voters?

    Republicans are emphasizing the importance of the election and the stakes involved, reminding voters of the potential consequences of a Democratic victory. They are also focusing on issues that resonate with their base, such as the economy and crime.

  • What is the significance of the growing number of disaffected Democrats?

    The rise of disaffected Democrats is a significant development, as it suggests that the party is losing support among its traditional base. This could have a major impact on the outcome of the 2022 election, as these voters may be more likely to support Republican candidates.

Show Notes

The VP debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz will go down in history as one of the most important debates we’ve seen in an election cycle. Join Charlie, Jack, Blake, Tyler and Andrew as they react live to Vance’s absolute domination and Walz’s demise.

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