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TMR 2021: Project Pegasus- Manisha Pande, Sandrine Rigaud, Michael Safi, Julien Bouissou, Kabir Agarwal

TMR 2021: Project Pegasus- Manisha Pande, Sandrine Rigaud, Michael Safi, Julien Bouissou, Kabir Agarwal

Update: 2021-11-03
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The Media Rumble session, "The Pegasus Story", was moderated by Manisha Pande, executive editor at Newslaundry. The panel comprised four journalists who were at the forefront of the Pegasus story: Forbidden Stories editor in chief Sandrine Rigaud; The Wire journalist Kabir Agarwal; The Guardian's international correspondent Michael Safi; and Le Monde journalist Julien Bouissou. The panel discussed what is arguably the biggest story of the year: the Pegasus spyware developed by the NSO and its potential targets. Sandrine explained the initial days of their investigation and how Forbidden Stories came across the list of potential targets. The panel also discussed the difficulty they faced in gaining the trust of potential targets and other media partners to aid their investigation.



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0:00 to 1:18 - Introduction 

1:18 to 5:55 - Initial days of investigation, methodology and precautions taken 

5:55 to 11:08 - The Wire reporting on a story where it was also a victim

11:08 to 15:04 - Securing information and communication between collaborators

15:04 to 19:24 - Reducing the entire story into a 5 episode podcast

19:24 to 33:18 - Obstacles posed by secrecy in building trust with readers and potential targets

33:18 to 35:51 - Gaining trust of other media partners

35:51 to 47:44 - Pros and Cons of being legacy media versus a not for profit

47:44 to 51:45 - Tackling the ‘National Security’ argument used by the government 

51:45 to 53:48 - Reasons for lukewarm response from the Indian public

53:48 to 56:18 - Reception of the story in France

56:18 to 58:59 - Concluding remarks



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TMR 2021: Project Pegasus- Manisha Pande, Sandrine Rigaud, Michael Safi, Julien Bouissou, Kabir Agarwal

TMR 2021: Project Pegasus- Manisha Pande, Sandrine Rigaud, Michael Safi, Julien Bouissou, Kabir Agarwal