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Talking Dateline: The Butterfly

Talking Dateline: The Butterfly

Update: 2024-10-022
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Jenna Bush Hager introduces her new podcast, "Open Book with Jenna," promising candid conversations with celebrities, experts, and friends. The episode features a discussion of the Dateline episode "The Butterfly," focusing on the investigation of Caitlin Markham's disappearance and murder. Josh Mankowitz and Andrea Canning, Dateline correspondents, discuss the contrasting personalities of Caitlin and her fiancé, John Carter, and how their relationship evolved over time. They also delve into the use of voice stress analysis in the investigation and its admissibility in court, comparing it to polygraphs and their limitations. The episode highlights the arrival of investigator Paul Newton and his crucial role in turning the tide of the investigation, leading to John Carter's arrest during a glassblowing class. Andrea shares an exclusive clip of investigator Paul Newton describing the unusual arrest. The episode concludes with a discussion of the outcome of the case, John Carter's plea deal for involuntary manslaughter, and the mixed reactions to the sentence, including the family's pursuit of "Katelyn's Law" to extend the statute of limitations on missing persons cases. Andrea Canning is joined by Dateline producer Justin Smith to answer viewer questions about the episode, including the length of John Carter's sentence, the circumstances surrounding the recovery of Caitlin's remains, and the questioning of Caitlin's father. The episode wraps up with a reminder to reach out on social media and promotions for the new Dateline series "Dateline: The Smoking Gun" and upcoming Dateline episodes.

Outlines

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Dateline: The Butterfly - A Case of Contrasting Personalities and a Turning Point in the Investigation

This episode delves into the Dateline episode "The Butterfly," exploring the investigation of Caitlin Markham's disappearance and murder. The episode highlights the contrasting personalities of the victim and her fiancé, John Carter, and the impact of a key investigator who ultimately led to the fiancé's arrest.

00:00:34
The Investigation: From Initial Flaws to a Breakthrough

The episode discusses the initial investigation, highlighting its flaws and the delayed questioning of Caitlin's father. It then focuses on the arrival of investigator Paul Newton and his crucial role in turning the tide of the investigation, leading to John Carter's arrest during a glassblowing class.

00:11:51
Justice Served, but Imperfect: The Outcome and the Fight for Change

The episode discusses the outcome of the case, John Carter's plea deal for involuntary manslaughter, and the mixed reactions to the sentence. It also highlights the family's pursuit of "Katelyn's Law" to extend the statute of limitations on missing persons cases.

00:18:41
Viewer Questions and Dateline Promotions

Andrea Canning is joined by Dateline producer Justin Smith to answer viewer questions about the episode, including the length of John Carter's sentence, the circumstances surrounding the recovery of Caitlin's remains, and the questioning of Caitlin's father. The episode wraps up with a reminder to reach out on social media and promotions for the new Dateline series "Dateline: The Smoking Gun" and upcoming Dateline episodes.

Keywords

Voice Stress Analysis


A technique used to detect deception by analyzing changes in a person's voice, often used in law enforcement investigations. It is often compared to polygraphs, but its admissibility in court is debated.

Involuntary Manslaughter


A criminal offense that occurs when a person unintentionally causes the death of another person through reckless or negligent conduct. It is a lesser charge than murder.

Statute of Limitations


A legal time limit within which a lawsuit or criminal prosecution must be initiated. It is designed to prevent stale claims and ensure fairness in the legal system.

Plea Deal


An agreement between a defendant and the prosecution in which the defendant pleads guilty to a lesser charge or to a lesser sentence in exchange for dropping some or all of the charges.

Dateline


A long-running true crime television series that investigates real-life mysteries and crimes. It is known for its in-depth reporting and compelling storytelling.

Glassblowing


A craft that involves heating glass to a molten state and then shaping it by blowing air into it. It is often used to create decorative objects and art.

Private Investigator


A person who investigates cases for individuals or organizations, often hired to gather information or evidence. They may specialize in areas such as insurance fraud, infidelity, or missing persons.

Hidden Camera Gear


Equipment used to record video or audio secretly, often used by private investigators or law enforcement agencies to gather evidence.

Q&A

  • What are some of the key differences between the initial police investigation and the later investigation led by Paul Newton?

    The initial investigation was criticized for its lack of thoroughness, including the delayed questioning of Caitlin's father and the incomplete recovery of her remains. Paul Newton brought a fresh perspective, re-examining evidence and pursuing leads, ultimately leading to John Carter's arrest.

  • How did the viewers react to John Carter's three-year sentence for involuntary manslaughter?

    Many viewers expressed shock and disappointment at the sentence, feeling it was too lenient given the severity of the crime. They also questioned the plea deal that was reached just weeks before the trial was scheduled to begin.

  • What is "Katelyn's Law" and why is the family fighting for it?

    "Katelyn's Law" is a proposed law that would extend the statute of limitations on missing persons cases. The family is advocating for this change because they believe that John Carter benefited from the existing statute of limitations by hiding Caitlin's body and escaping prosecution for a longer period.

  • What was the most unusual aspect of John Carter's arrest?

    John Carter was arrested during a glassblowing class, a highly unusual setting for an arrest. The scene was described as chaotic, with students and the instructor surprised and confused by the sudden appearance of law enforcement.

  • What is the significance of the "Dateline: The Smoking Gun" series?

    "Dateline: The Smoking Gun" is a new series that focuses on the critical pieces of evidence that crack murder investigations. It highlights the twists and turns of the investigation leading up to the moment detectives uncover the key evidence that solves the case.

Show Notes

Andrea Canning talks with Josh Mankiewicz about her episode “The Butterfly.” When 21-year-old art student Katelyn Markham suddenly vanished from her Ohio home in the summer of 2011, her friends and family knew something was terribly wrong. It would take more than a decade for her killer to be arrested. Andrea plays Josh an extra clip from her interview with the investigator who cracked the case. And Mankiewicz & Canning, anyone? Josh and Andrea talk about a potential future business endeavor.

Listen to the full episode of "The Butterfly" here: https://link.chtbl.com/dl_thebutterfly

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