Praemium’s Damian Cilmi is joined by LaSalle Investment Management’s Managing Director Matt Sgrizzi for a discussion on  the 'Great Tightening Cycle.' In this episode Matt sheds light on how the legacy of financial stress in real estate has historically unfolded into rewarding opportunities, particularly within the robust world of real estate investment.

The conversations turns to the future of office leasing, the booming data centre sector, and the shift in retail real estate towards e-commerce. Matt's insights give a comprehensive picture of a sector undergoing fundamental change, where savvy investors can benefit from high yield income whilst protecting against inflation.

TRANSCRIPT
Damian Cilmi: Hi listeners, welcome to another installment of the Premium Investment Leaders Series podcast. I'm your host, Damian Cilmi, Head of Investment Managers at Premium. We try and move around all the major asset classes and bring you insights from the world's leading investors. And today we are back to discuss global property.

We've done a few episodes in the past, looking at structural changes to retail and the impact of work from home on offices. And it's been quite a wild ride for real estate investors with the asset class dragged down by interest rate increases in 22, only to see a rally late in 23 when it appeared rates had peaked.

We're now at an interesting inflection point, and we're really pleased to be joined today by Matt Sgrizzi, CIO and lead global portfolio manager of LaSalle Securities, who's joined us from their head office in Baltimore. Matt, welcome to the show

Matt Sgrizzi: Great to be here, Damian. Thank you for having me. 

Damian Cilmi: Hopefully it's been very nice to you.

Matt Sgrizzi: It has been, as usual. 

Damian Cilmi: Oh, very good. And the weather's been nice, which is good. I appreciate that. It's good. And so, before we get into the interview, we'll talk about LaSalle. There's a large manager of real estate portfolios, over 900 staff and manage over U. S. 90 billion.

But just an introductory question, how does your team fit within the overall Jones Lang LaSalle business? 

Matt Sgrizzi: Yeah, so LaSalle Investment Management is the wholly owned investment management arm of JLL. So, all of the investment management services are within LaSalle. And that is the 900 staff globally.

The majority of that business is investing in and managing real estate, private equity. And then there are other businesses within LaSalle that invest in debt origination and indirect investments in, in real estate. And indirect means that we're not only investing in a portfolio of real estate assets, but also a third-party manager of those assets.

So co investments, private funds, and listed securities. And I work on the indirect, which is the unlisted funds and the public companies investing in those real estate assets. 

And then you've got the big group as well that, you know, does a lot of broken real estate services while they get a lot of insights out of that group.

Absolutely. So JLL you know, absolutely enormous global real estate service provider. Anything that you could think about with real estate, JLL will be happy to help you with that that problem that you might have and indeed, we, we rea

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