Tayo and Eman sit down with Sandra Igwe, founder and CEO of The Motherhood Group and Black Mums App, for a raw conversation on black motherhood, the NHS, and building a serious social impact business from pain and purpose.

Sandra shares how a traumatic birth, a legal fight with her local trust, and years in law and social enterprise pushed her to build The Motherhood Group. Today her organisation supports thousands of black mums through antenatal and postnatal support, conferences, training, research, and tech, while working with NHS trusts, law firms, and policymakers.

They talk about why black families do not trust institutions, why fear is often a more honest word than trust, and how Sandra became a bridge between the community and services. She breaks down how she went from a WhatsApp group and a “ugly” first flyer to a seven figure organisation, why she says yes then works it out, and why people doing purpose-led work must charge and build structure.

If you care about black maternal health, social impact, money with meaning, or you want to turn your own story into something bigger, this one is for you.

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The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more!

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