Guest: José Mariano López Urdiales, CEO and Founder of Zero 2 Infinity

The Cosmic Scoop:
In this remarkably candid episode, José Mariano López Urdiales presents a compelling case for why balloon-assisted launches might be the only economically viable solution for small satellite deployment.

Drawing from 15 years of experience with Zero 2 Infinity, José breaks down why conventional micro launchers face fundamental economic challenges, from capital-intensive launch sites to the physics of dense lower atmosphere.

He explains how launching from 25km altitude could eliminate up to 70% of conventional launch costs while offering a refreshingly honest perspective on the challenges of innovating in Europe's space sector and why copying American rocket designs isn't the answer.

Quotable Insights:
1. "Developing a micro launcher traditionally needs a couple hundred million dollars. We believe with a balloon-assisted launcher, it's in the ballpark of 120 million Euro - including four orbital trials."

2. "Nobody explains it like this - they just say 'because we're so innovative' or whatever. I don't know. I'm going to tell you how it really works."

3. "The only kind of micro launcher that can be viable is balloon-based. But nobody's actually developing it - we got to a certain point, but we're lacking funding."

4 "You don't win by copying. That's not how the V2 appeared, and Starship is super interesting because it's very, very different."

Cosmic Timeline (Timestamps):
- [00:00:00 ] Introduction to Zero 2 Infinity's unique approach
- [00:04:50 ] Technical discussion of balloon launch altitudes and capabilities
- [00:14:30 ] Advantages of balloon-assisted launches vs traditional rockets
- [00:27:34 ] Cost comparison of micro launchers vs balloon technology
- [00:42:09 ] European space industry challenges and opportunities
- [00:52:54 ] Space tourism potential and market analysis
- [01:01:14 ] Challenges with ESA and European space sector
- [01:15:35 ] Zero 2 Infinity's journey and pivots
- [01:28:04 ] ESA funding mechanisms and politics
- [01:32:00 ] Astronomical research possibilities with balloons
- [01:37:46 ] Personal reflections on entrepreneurship and vision
- [01:42:54 ] Music recommendation and final thoughts
- [01:44:37 ] Closing thoughts on finding meaning in life

Choice of Music for the Aspiring Space Traveller's Playlist: Public Service Broadcasting - "Go" - 

Links to Explore:

• Zero 2 Infinity: zero2infinity.space
• Follow José's insights: @JMLU77 on X

This episode challenges conventional wisdom about space access and offers crucial insights for anyone interested in the future of small satellite launches. A must-listen for space industry professionals, investors, and anyone following the transformation of space access.

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