In this episode, Louis and Aaron sit down with someone who truly embodies the definition of “old school.” Kathy Williams—once a hard-living criminal alcoholic—has now been sober for nearly four decades, and her journey is nothing short of unbelievable.Kathy grew up in a world where chaos felt normal, and the madness only intensified when she met her first husband. He wasn’t just dabbling in crime—he was running from police on a regular basis, dragging Kathy into a lifestyle she never planned on living. What started as standing by her husband quickly turned into participating in the same wild, reckless behavior. And with every police chase, every lie, every slammed door, her drinking escalated. Alcohol became her escape, her comfort, and eventually her downfall.As her marriage crumbled, Kathy tried to climb out of the hole—but the insanity wasn’t done with her yet. While working her job, she found herself entangled with a client’s brother, a man whose presence felt like a whirlwind compared to the storm she was escaping. Three weeks after meeting him—three weeks of excitement, instability, and red flags she didn’t want to see—Kathy married him. That decision would send her into another chapter of turmoil that even she couldn’t have predicted.From bar fights and blackouts to dangerous decisions and losing everything she thought she controlled, Kathy’s life spiraled into a level of chaos that would have destroyed most people. But instead, her story took a turn. Through pain, consequences, and moments of clarity that came only after she hit her own version of bottom, Kathy clawed her way toward sobriety. And once she got clean, she stayed clean—year after year, decade after decade.Nearly 40 years later, Kathy Williams sits with Louis and Aaron not as the woman she used to be, but as a living testament to resilience, accountability, and the power of recovery. Her story is raw, gripping, unbelievable in parts—and absolutely inspiring.And trust us… you’ll want to listen until the very end to hear how this one turns out.

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