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The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Update: 2024-10-14
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The episode begins with a discussion about the Oilers' disappointing start to the season, highlighting their lack of scoring and defensive issues. The hosts then discuss the controversial goal interference calls in the Oilers' game against the Flames, analyzing the league's stance on the rule and its consistency. They also delve into the Montreal Canadiens' victory over the Ottawa Senators, highlighting the renewed rivalry between the two teams and Lane Hudson's impressive performance. The hosts then discuss Ville Husso's placement on waivers by the Detroit Red Wings, analyzing the reasons behind the move, including cap reasons and Steve Yzerman's message to the team. The episode continues with discussions about the Pittsburgh Penguins' goalie situation, the Colorado Avalanche's early season struggles, and Igor Shesterkin's contract situation with the New York Rangers. The hosts also discuss Trevor Zegras' performance for the Anaheim Ducks, highlighting his empty-net goal and the team's trust in his development. The episode concludes with a discussion about the Toronto Maple Leafs' early season success under new coach Craig Berube, analyzing the team's defensive improvements and the impact of new players. The hosts also discuss Auston Matthews' performance as captain and his focus on defense. The episode also includes a listener question about the fastest goal scored by a first overall pick, revealing that while McLean's goal was impressive, Mario Lemieux holds the record. The hosts then discuss the upcoming home opener for the Columbus Blue Jackets, which will be dedicated to honoring the life of Johnny Gaudreau and his brother Matthew. The event will feature a special tribute and fans will receive a number 13 patch.

Outlines

00:00:00
Oilers' Struggles and Goal Interference Controversy

The episode kicks off with a discussion about the Oilers' disappointing start to the season, analyzing their lack of scoring and defensive issues. The hosts then delve into the controversial goal interference calls in the Oilers' game against the Flames, discussing the league's stance on the rule and its consistency.

00:00:45
Thanksgiving Greetings and Canadiens' Victory

The hosts extend Thanksgiving greetings to Canadian listeners and discuss the Oilers' early season struggles. They then discuss the Montreal Canadiens' victory over the Ottawa Senators, highlighting the renewed rivalry between the two teams and Lane Hudson's impressive performance.

00:01:28
Red Wings' Waiver Move and Penguins' Goalie Situation

The hosts discuss Ville Husso's placement on waivers by the Detroit Red Wings, analyzing the reasons behind the move, including cap reasons and Steve Yzerman's message to the team. They then discuss the Pittsburgh Penguins' goalie situation, particularly the performance of Casey DeSmith and the potential for a goalie tandem.

00:18:35
Avalanche's Struggles and Georgiev's Future

The hosts discuss the Colorado Avalanche's early season struggles, particularly the performance of Alexander Georgiev. They analyze the team's vulnerability due to injuries and the impact of mistakes on their performance.

00:26:25
Shesterkin's Contract Situation and Zegras' Redemption

The hosts discuss Igor Shesterkin's contract situation with the New York Rangers, analyzing the leverage Shesterkin holds as a UFA and the Rangers' dilemma in negotiating a new deal. They then discuss Trevor Zegras' performance for the Anaheim Ducks, highlighting his empty-net goal and the team's trust in his development.

00:30:18
Maple Leafs' Early Success and Matthews' Captaincy

The hosts discuss the Toronto Maple Leafs' early season success under new coach Craig Berube, analyzing the team's defensive improvements and the impact of new players. They also discuss Auston Matthews' performance as captain and his focus on defense.

00:41:42
NHL Draft Lottery and Fastest First Overall Pick Goal

The hosts discuss the NHL Draft Lottery and how the league has improved its presentation. They then delve into a listener question about the fastest goal scored by a first overall pick, revealing that while McLean's goal was impressive, Mario Lemieux holds the record.

00:44:53
Honoring Johnny Gaudreau in Columbus

The hosts discuss the upcoming home opener for the Columbus Blue Jackets, which will be dedicated to honoring the life of Johnny Gaudreau and his brother Matthew. The event will feature a special tribute and fans will receive a number 13 patch.

Keywords

Goal Interference


A penalty called when an offensive player impedes the goalie's ability to make a save by entering the crease or making contact with the goalie. The rule is often controversial due to its subjective nature.

Calder Trophy


Awarded annually to the NHL's top rookie player. The award is voted on by the Professional Hockey Writers Association and is considered one of the most prestigious awards in the league.

Waiver Wire


A system in the NHL where teams can place players on waivers, making them available to other teams. If a player is claimed by another team, they are added to that team's roster.

Performance Bonuses


Incentives added to player contracts that are paid out based on certain performance criteria, such as games played or goals scored. These bonuses can affect a team's salary cap.

NHL Draft Lottery


The NHL Draft Lottery is a system used to determine the order in which teams will select players in the upcoming NHL Entry Draft. The lottery is designed to give teams with the worst records a better chance of selecting the top players.

Fastest Goal by First Overall Pick


This refers to the quickest goal scored by a player who was selected first overall in the NHL Entry Draft. Mario Lemieux holds the record for the fastest goal, scoring in his first game.

Johnny Gaudreau


Johnny Gaudreau was a professional ice hockey player who tragically passed away in a car accident. He was known for his exceptional skills and was a beloved figure in the hockey community.

Columbus Blue Jackets


The Columbus Blue Jackets are a professional ice hockey team based in Columbus, Ohio. They are a member of the Central Division of the NHL's Western Conference.

Q&A

  • What are the Oilers' biggest concerns early in the season?

    The Oilers are struggling with puck control, scoring goals, and figuring out their defensive pairings. They also seem to be lacking desperation and a sense of urgency.

  • How does the NHL's goal interference rule work?

    The rule states that if a player enters the crease on their own volition and makes contact with the goalie, the goal will be disallowed. The league believes this rule is consistent, despite the calls appearing soft.

  • What is the significance of Lane Hudson's performance for the Canadiens?

    Hudson's impressive play has reignited the rivalry between the Canadiens and Senators. He is also a strong contender for the Calder Trophy, awarded to the NHL's top rookie.

  • Why did the Red Wings place Ville Husso on waivers?

    The Red Wings placed Husso on waivers due to cap reasons and to send a message to the team that there are no sacred cows. Steve Yzerman wants to see improvement from the team.

  • What is the future of Alexander Georgiev with the Avalanche?

    Georgiev's performance has been shaky early in the season, but Jared Bednar has publicly stated that he is still the team's starting goalie. The Avalanche are facing challenges due to injuries and need Georgiev to perform better.

  • How do performance bonuses affect a team's cap space?

    Performance bonuses are paid out based on certain performance criteria and can be added to a team's cap in the following year if they don't have enough cap space in the current year.

  • What is the significance of the Oilers' waiver carousel with Raphael Lavoie?

    Lavoie was claimed and waived multiple times by different teams, highlighting the complexities of the waiver system. The hosts discuss potential solutions to prevent such situations in the future.

  • What is the fastest goal scored by a first overall pick in NHL history?

    Mario Lemieux holds the record for the fastest goal by a first overall pick, scoring in his first game.

  • How will the Columbus Blue Jackets honor Johnny Gaudreau and his brother Matthew at their home opener?

    The Blue Jackets will dedicate the game to their memory, with fans receiving a number 13 patch and a special tribute planned.

Show Notes

In this episode of 32 Thoughts, Kyle and Elliotte kick off the podcast by breaking down the battle of Alberta from Sunday night. They take time to focus on the Oilers' 0-3-0 start to the season (8:35 ) and give the Flames their flowers for starting 3-0-0 (12:02 ). Kyle and Elliotte shift to another 3-0-0 Canadian team in Winnipeg (15:00 ). That makes way for the all-Canadian matchup between the Habs and Sens on Hockey Night (18:37 ). Afterwards, Kyle and Elliotte talk about Ville Husso landing on waivers (26:30 ) and Elliotte lays out his read on the goalie situation in Pittsburgh (32:00 ). The guys talk about how the future of the league is in really good hands with Connor Bedard (37:16 ). They also delve into the Colorado Avalanche's slow start the season (42:14 ). Elliotte lays out the latest with Igor Shesterkin and the New York Rangers (45:04 ) and The Final Thought focuses on the Toronto Maple Leafs' start the season (52:00 ).

Kyle and Elliotte answer your questions in the Thought Line (1:02:47 ).

In the final segment, Elliotte and Kyle look ahead to Columbus Blue Jackets' home opener on Tuesday night where the franchise will honour the Gaudreau brothers (1:22:32 ).

Email the podcast at 32thoughts@sportsnet.ca or call the Thought Line at 1-833-311-3232 and leave us a voicemail

This podcast was produced and mixed by Dominic Sramaty and hosted by Elliotte Friedman & Kyle Bukauskas.

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.  

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