Kevin Dubois and Thomas Vitale, two cloud-native enthusiasts in the Java ecosystem, discuss the evolution of frameworks and tooling that has led to increased development and developer joy. They cover everything from Testcontainers to incorporating LLMs in existing applications, as well as how to ensure the code quality remains high, even with the proliferation of code generation tooling.

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