The United States and Israel on Saturday launched an attack against Iran, killing the nation’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and, according to Iranian state media, several people in the country’s leadership structure.

The New York Times journalists Mark Mazzetti and David E. Sanger explain what is next for Iran, and what these strikes threaten to unleash.

Guest:

• Mark Mazzetti, an investigative reporter for The New York Times based in Washington, D.C.


• David E. Sanger, the White House and National Security Correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• Here’s what to know about the U.S. attacks on Iran.


• Fact-checking President Trump’s justifications for attacking Iran.

Photo: Arash Khamooshi for The New York Times

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