The Underrated Bruno Leoni (with Michael Munger)
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This episode of EconTalk features Mike Munger discussing the life and ideas of Bruno Leoni, a political economist known for his work on the rule of law and the relationship between law and legislation. The podcast begins with a biographical sketch of Leoni, highlighting his academic career, his involvement in World War II, and his presidency of the Mont Pelerin Society. It then delves into the details of Leoni's murder in 1967, which occurred during a dispute with a printer who was behind on rent payments. The discussion then shifts to Leoni's intellectual contributions, focusing on his influence on Hayek's distinction between law and legislation. Leoni argued that law is an emergent property, similar to paths forming spontaneously, while legislation is a top-down approach that suffers from the knowledge problem. He emphasized the importance of freedom, universality, and non-arbitrariness in the rule of law, arguing that law should be based on individual claims arising from disputes, rather than on pre-determined legislation. The podcast explores Leoni's radical view that common law is to legislation as markets are to centrally planned economies. He argued that common law, through its reliance on decentralized decision-making and emergent norms, is more adaptable and less prone to the knowledge problem than legislation. The discussion also touches on Leoni's concept of universality, which he connected to the Golden Rule, arguing that we should treat others as we ourselves would like to be treated. The podcast concludes with a discussion of Leoni's legacy and impact, highlighting his influence on Austrian economics, public choice, and law and economics. It clarifies Leoni's position on legislation, emphasizing that he was not an anarchist but believed that legislation has a role in addressing collective action problems and situations where common law is insufficient. The podcast also explores the question of whether laws are necessary to deter immoral behavior, arguing that social norms and individual conscience play a significant role in shaping behavior.
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Bruno Leoni: Law, Legislation, and the Rule of Law
This episode of EconTalk features Mike Munger discussing the life and ideas of Bruno Leoni, a political economist known for his work on the rule of law and the relationship between law and legislation. The podcast begins with a biographical sketch of Leoni, highlighting his academic career, his involvement in World War II, and his presidency of the Mont Pelerin Society. It then delves into the details of Leoni's murder in 1967, which occurred during a dispute with a printer who was behind on rent payments.
Leoni's Ideas and the Hayekian Influence
The discussion then shifts to Leoni's intellectual contributions, focusing on his influence on Hayek's distinction between law and legislation. Leoni argued that law is an emergent property, similar to paths forming spontaneously, while legislation is a top-down approach that suffers from the knowledge problem. He emphasized the importance of freedom, universality, and non-arbitrariness in the rule of law, arguing that law should be based on individual claims arising from disputes, rather than on pre-determined legislation.
Leoni's Conception of the Rule of Law
The podcast explores Leoni's radical view that common law is to legislation as markets are to centrally planned economies. He argued that common law, through its reliance on decentralized decision-making and emergent norms, is more adaptable and less prone to the knowledge problem than legislation. The discussion also touches on Leoni's concept of universality, which he connected to the Golden Rule, arguing that we should treat others as we ourselves would like to be treated.
Leoni's Legacy and Impact
The podcast concludes with a discussion of Leoni's legacy and impact, highlighting his influence on Austrian economics, public choice, and law and economics. It clarifies Leoni's position on legislation, emphasizing that he was not an anarchist but believed that legislation has a role in addressing collective action problems and situations where common law is insufficient. The podcast also explores the question of whether laws are necessary to deter immoral behavior, arguing that social norms and individual conscience play a significant role in shaping behavior.
Keywords
Common Law
Judge-made law based on precedents established in previous cases. It emphasizes the discovery of principles through disputes and the emergence of norms over time.
Legislation
Laws enacted by legislatures, often seen as a top-down approach to regulation. Leoni argues that legislation suffers from the knowledge problem and lacks the certainty of common law.
Rule of Law
A principle that ensures that laws are applied fairly and consistently to all individuals, regardless of their status or power. Leoni's conception of the rule of law emphasizes freedom, universality, and non-arbitrariness.
Knowledge Problem
The difficulty of acquiring and processing all the information necessary to make informed decisions, particularly in complex systems like markets or legal systems. Leoni argues that legislation suffers from the knowledge problem because it cannot anticipate all possible circumstances.
Discovery Process
The process of learning and adapting through trial and error, often associated with markets and common law. Leoni argues that judges engage in a discovery process as they resolve disputes and establish precedents.
Transaction Costs
The costs associated with exchanging goods or services, including search costs, bargaining costs, and enforcement costs. Leoni's ideas emphasize the importance of reducing transaction costs through the emergence of clear norms and expectations.
Universality
The principle that laws should apply equally to all individuals. Leoni connects universality to the Golden Rule, arguing that we should treat others as we ourselves would like to be treated.
Golden Rule
A moral principle that states that we should treat others as we would like to be treated. Leoni argues that universality in law should embody the Golden Rule, ensuring that laws reflect shared values and expectations.
Q&A
What are the key differences between law and legislation according to Bruno Leoni?
Leoni distinguishes law as an emergent property, arising from disputes and precedents, while legislation is a top-down approach enacted by legislatures. He argues that law is more adaptable and less prone to the knowledge problem than legislation.
How does Leoni's conception of the rule of law differ from traditional views?
Leoni emphasizes the importance of freedom, universality, and non-arbitrariness in the rule of law. He argues that law should be based on individual claims arising from disputes, rather than on pre-determined legislation.
What is the significance of Leoni's analogy between common law and markets?
Leoni argues that common law is to legislation as markets are to centrally planned economies. Both common law and markets rely on decentralized decision-making and emergent properties, while legislation and central planning suffer from the knowledge problem and lack the flexibility of spontaneous order.
How does Leoni's view of the role of judges differ from traditional legal thought?
Leoni sees judges as social scientists, tasked with discovering and applying emergent norms rather than interpreting pre-existing legislation. He believes that judges should focus on resolving disputes based on what is reasonable and expected in a given context.
What are the implications of Leoni's ideas for the role of government in society?
Leoni's ideas suggest that government should play a limited role in regulating social interactions. He believes that common law, based on emergent norms and expectations, can effectively govern many aspects of life, and that legislation should be reserved for situations where collective action problems or high transaction costs necessitate it.
Show Notes
Friedrich Hayek credited Bruno Leoni with shaping his ideas on laws and legislation. James Buchanan said that Leoni identified problems that led to his own work on public choice. How is it possible, then, that so few of us know of the groundbreaking Italian political philosopher? Listen as Duke economist Michael Munger talks with EconTalk's Russ Roberts about Leoni's ideas and the gruesome murder that ended his life before its time.
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