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The existential struggle of being Black

The existential struggle of being Black

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Sean Elling interviews Natalie Etouquet, a professor at the CUNY Graduate Center and author of "Black Existential Freedom." Etouquet discusses the concept of black existentialism, arguing that it is not simply a subset of Western existentialism but a distinct tradition that emerges from the historical dehumanization of people of African descent. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the struggle for freedom as a central aspect of the black experience, both in the United States and globally. Etouquet challenges the notion of Afro-pessimism, arguing that while acknowledging the ongoing reality of oppression, it is crucial to maintain a sense of agency and hope. She critiques the tendency to reduce black identity to victimhood and emphasizes the need for a global revolution that addresses the root causes of inequality and exploitation. The conversation explores the complexities of race, identity, and politics in a world where the struggle for freedom is intertwined with the fight for material resources and access.

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Existentialism and the Black Experience

This Chapter begins with a discussion of existentialism and its history, with Etouquet highlighting the importance of freedom and responsibility in this tradition of thought. She then explores the unique challenges and possibilities of black existentialism, arguing that it is a distinct tradition that emerges from the historical dehumanization of people of African descent.

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Afro-Pessimism and the Struggle for Freedom

This Chapter delves into the concept of Afro-pessimism and its relationship to Etouquet's work. She argues that while acknowledging the ongoing reality of oppression, it is crucial to maintain a sense of agency and hope. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the struggle for freedom as a central aspect of the black experience.

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The Future of Racism and the Need for Global Change

This Chapter explores the question of whether we will ever live in a world without racism. Etouquet argues that while acknowledging the ongoing reality of oppression, it is crucial to maintain a sense of agency and hope. She emphasizes the need for a global revolution that addresses the root causes of inequality and exploitation.

Keywords

Black Existentialism


A philosophical tradition that explores the unique challenges and possibilities of existence as a black person in a world marked by dehumanization and oppression. It emphasizes the importance of understanding the struggle for freedom as a central aspect of the black experience, both in the United States and globally.

Afro-pessimism


A philosophical perspective that argues that the dehumanization of people of African descent is so deeply ingrained in Western society that it is impossible to achieve true liberation. It emphasizes the ongoing reality of oppression and the difficulty of achieving meaningful change.

Natalie Etouquet


A professor at the CUNY Graduate Center and the author of "Black Existential Freedom." She is a leading voice in the field of black existentialism and has written extensively on the intersection of race, identity, and politics.

The Great Area


A podcast hosted by Sean Elling that explores a wide range of topics related to culture, politics, and philosophy. The podcast is known for its thoughtful and engaging conversations with experts in their fields.

Freedom


A fundamental human right that encompasses the ability to make choices and act autonomously. In the context of black existentialism, freedom is often understood as a struggle against oppression and a process of self-definition.

Oppression


The systematic and unjust treatment of a group of people based on their race, gender, sexual orientation, or other factors. It can manifest in various forms, including discrimination, violence, and economic exploitation.

Dehumanization


The process of stripping individuals or groups of their humanity and dignity. It is often used as a tool of oppression to justify violence and exploitation.

Material Conditions


The economic and social circumstances that shape people's lives. In the context of black existentialism, material conditions are often seen as a key factor in understanding the struggle for freedom.

Solidarity


A sense of unity and shared purpose among different groups of people who are fighting for a common cause. It is often seen as essential for achieving social justice and overcoming oppression.

Global Revolution


A radical transformation of the global political and economic system that aims to dismantle structures of oppression and create a more just and equitable world.

Q&A

  • What is black existentialism and how does it differ from Western existentialism?

    Black existentialism is a distinct philosophical tradition that emerges from the historical dehumanization of people of African descent. It acknowledges the universal themes of freedom and responsibility explored in Western existentialism but also emphasizes the unique challenges and possibilities of existence as a black person in a world marked by oppression.

  • What is Afro-pessimism and how does Etouquet respond to this perspective?

    Afro-pessimism is a philosophical perspective that argues that the dehumanization of people of African descent is so deeply ingrained in Western society that it is impossible to achieve true liberation. Etouquet challenges this perspective, arguing that while acknowledging the ongoing reality of oppression, it is crucial to maintain a sense of agency and hope. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the struggle for freedom as a central aspect of the black experience.

  • What are the key challenges facing black people in the United States today, according to Etouquet?

    Etouquet argues that the key challenges facing black people in the United States today are not simply about race but also about the material conditions of their lives. She critiques the tendency to reduce black identity to victimhood and emphasizes the need for a global revolution that addresses the root causes of inequality and exploitation.

  • How does Etouquet's experience living on three different continents inform her understanding of race and identity?

    Etouquet's experience living in France, Cameroon, and the United States has given her a unique perspective on the complexities of race and identity. She argues that race is not simply a biological category but a social construct that is shaped by historical and political forces.

  • What is the role of hope in the face of ongoing oppression?

    Etouquet argues that hope is essential for maintaining a sense of agency and purpose in the face of ongoing oppression. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the struggle for freedom as a central aspect of the black experience and the need to continue fighting for a more just and equitable world.

  • What are the political traps of neoliberalism and how do they undermine the struggle for freedom?

    Etouquet argues that neoliberalism has created a system where the struggle for freedom is often reduced to individualistic competition and access to resources. She critiques the tendency to focus on identity politics at the expense of broader social and economic justice.

  • What is the significance of the Haitian Creole word "neg"?

    The Haitian Creole word "neg" means "human" and is a powerful reminder of the resilience and creativity of enslaved people who created a language that challenged the dehumanizing language of their oppressors.

  • What is the role of the blues in the black experience?

    The blues is an African-American art form that allows people to express the dissonance of their existence and to find meaning and resilience in the face of oppression.

  • What is the importance of grassroots organizing in the fight for freedom?

    Etouquet argues that grassroots organizing is essential for building a movement for social justice that is not beholden to corporate interests or the status quo. She emphasizes the need for a movement that addresses the root causes of inequality and exploitation.

  • What is the significance of the murder of George Floyd?

    The murder of George Floyd sparked a global movement for racial justice and highlighted the systemic racism that exists in the United States and around the world. It also served as a reminder of the ongoing struggle for freedom and the need for systemic change.

Show Notes

Nathalie Etoke joins The Gray Area to talk about existentialism, the Black experience, and the legacy of dehumanization. 

Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

Guest: Nathalie Etoke. Her book is Black Existential Freedom.

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