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The young trolls of Wall Street are growing up

The young trolls of Wall Street are growing up

Update: 2024-07-082
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This episode explores the resurgence of amateur investors, particularly young men, in the stock market, a trend that began with the meme stock frenzy of 2021. Financial journalist Nathaniel Papa, author of "The Trolls of Wall Street," explains that this new generation of traders is driven by entertainment, community, and the success they experienced during the pandemic bull market. While initially focused on risky speculative trading, these investors are now shifting their focus to larger, more established tech companies, particularly those involved in AI. Papa also highlights the potential influence of these young traders on the upcoming US presidential election, drawing parallels between their online culture and that of Donald Trump supporters. The episode concludes with a sense of uncertainty about the future direction of these traders, emphasizing the unpredictable nature of their actions.

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00:00:00
Introduction

This Chapter introduces the topic of the resurgence of amateur investors in the stock market, particularly young men, and the role of financial journalist Nathaniel Papa in understanding this phenomenon.

00:00:14
The Return of Roaring Kitty and Meme Stocks

This Chapter discusses the recent resurgence of interest in meme stocks, particularly GameStop, and the role of Roaring Kitty, aka Keith Gill, in driving this trend. It highlights the fact that many amateur investors who followed Gill into the market during the 2021 frenzy have remained active.

00:00:25
The Rise of Young Day Traders

This Chapter delves into the reasons behind the continued presence of young day traders in the market, highlighting the entertainment factor, the sense of community, and the financial success many experienced during the pandemic bull market. It explores the addictive nature of day trading and the role of social media in fostering this behavior.

00:06:42
Shifting Investment Strategies

This Chapter examines the evolution of investment strategies among young day traders, noting a shift away from risky speculative trading towards larger, more established tech companies, particularly those involved in AI. It discusses the potential influence of these traders on the US presidential election and the underlying distrust of institutions that drives their actions.

Keywords

Day Trading


The practice of buying and selling securities, typically stocks, within a short period of time, often within the same day, with the aim of profiting from short-term price fluctuations. Day traders often use technical analysis and leverage to maximize their returns, but they also face higher risks due to the volatility of the market.

Meme Stocks


Stocks that gain popularity and experience significant price increases due to social media hype and online discussions, often driven by retail investors. Meme stocks are typically characterized by high volatility and can be subject to rapid price swings based on sentiment and speculation.

Roaring Kitty


The online persona of Keith Gill, a prominent figure in the 2021 meme stock frenzy. Gill's investment in GameStop and his public advocacy for the stock on social media platforms like Reddit played a significant role in driving the stock's price surge. He is known for his unconventional investment strategies and his outspoken criticism of Wall Street institutions.

Wall Street Bets


A popular subreddit on Reddit where retail investors discuss and share investment ideas, particularly those related to meme stocks. The subreddit gained notoriety during the 2021 GameStop saga, where its members coordinated to drive up the stock's price, challenging traditional Wall Street players. It is known for its irreverent and often controversial discussions.

Nathaniel Papa


A financial journalist and author of the book "The Trolls of Wall Street." Papa is an expert on the intersection of Wall Street and Silicon Valley and has written extensively about the rise of retail investors and the impact of social media on financial markets. His book explores the motivations and strategies of a new generation of traders.

AI Stocks


Stocks of companies involved in the development and application of artificial intelligence (AI) technologies. These companies are typically involved in areas such as machine learning, natural language processing, computer vision, and robotics. AI stocks have gained significant attention in recent years due to the rapid growth of the AI industry and its potential to disrupt various sectors.

Donald Trump


The 45th President of the United States. Trump is a controversial figure known for his populist rhetoric and his use of social media to communicate directly with his supporters. He has been a vocal critic of Wall Street institutions and has often appealed to working-class voters.

Trolling Culture


A type of online behavior characterized by the deliberate posting of provocative or inflammatory content, often with the intention of provoking a reaction or disrupting online communities. Trolling culture has become increasingly prevalent on social media platforms and has been linked to the rise of political polarization and online harassment.

Q&A

  • What are the main reasons behind the continued presence of young day traders in the market?

    Young day traders are staying in the market due to the entertainment factor, the sense of community, and the financial success many experienced during the pandemic bull market. Day trading provides a form of entertainment similar to social media or sports gambling, offering a constant stream of feedback and the potential for quick gains. The online communities that have formed around day trading provide a sense of belonging and shared purpose. Additionally, many young traders profited from the bull market of the early pandemic, which has encouraged them to continue investing.

  • How are young day traders shifting their investment strategies?

    Young day traders are moving away from risky speculative trading towards larger, more established tech companies, particularly those involved in AI. This shift reflects a growing interest in companies with a proven track record and the potential for long-term growth. The focus on AI reflects the belief that technology is driving rapid change and that companies at the forefront of this innovation are likely to benefit.

  • What is the potential influence of young traders on the upcoming US presidential election?

    Young traders, particularly those who emerged during the meme stock frenzy, share a distrust of institutions and a desire to challenge the status quo. This ideology aligns with the populist rhetoric of Donald Trump and could potentially influence the outcome of the election. The online culture of these traders, characterized by trolling and a blurring of lines between humor and seriousness, also resembles the online culture of Trump supporters.

Show Notes

Back in 2021, the meme stock frenzy was at its peak: Roaring Kitty AKA Keith Gill, and young day traders gleefully upended financial markets. Roaring Kitty disappeared for a bit before returning just a couple months ago.

His disciples that followed him into the markets, however, never left. That's according to Nathaniel Popper in his new book, The Trolls of Wall Street: How the Outcasts and Insurgents are Hacking the Markets.

Today on the show, why Nathaniel believes these day traders are here to stay and where they're putting their money now.

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The young trolls of Wall Street are growing up

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