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Thursday Afternoon Monday Morning Podcast 10-10-24

Thursday Afternoon Monday Morning Podcast 10-10-24

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Bill Burr and Josh Wolf, two prominent comedians, engage in a wide-ranging conversation covering various topics, including their experiences in the comedy world, their perspectives on sports, their thoughts on music, and their personal reflections on life. The episode begins with a warm introduction, highlighting the long-awaited nature of this collaboration. They reminisce about a previous roast event and discuss the upcoming release of Josh Wolf's new special, "Four Stories." The conversation then delves into the Boston comedy scene, with Bill and Josh sharing anecdotes about the unique personalities of Boston comedians and their rapid-fire style. They discuss the Mount Rushmore of Boston comics, highlighting the influence of Lenny Clarke. The conversation transitions to a discussion about the evolution of sports, particularly the dominance of Patrick Mahomes and the business side of the NFL. Bill and Josh explore the concept of fusion music, its origins, and its impact on the music industry. They discuss the concept of boredom in music and how it can lead to innovation, using examples like Miles Davis and progressive rock. They also discuss the Seattle comedy scene, specifically the Comedy Underground and its owner, Terry Giggles. Bill reflects on the loneliness of touring and how having his son on the road has changed his perspective. They discuss the changing landscape of comedy, particularly the rise of "echo chamber" comedy and the importance of making people uncomfortable. Josh Wolf discusses his new special, "Four Stories," and how it challenges conventional stand-up special formats. Bill discusses his recent comedy special, emphasizing his desire for an intimate, "full frontal" experience for the audience. He explains his decision to avoid wide shots and focus on close-ups, aiming for an artistic presentation. He contrasts his independent approach to comedy with the practices of networks, highlighting the disconnect between his artistic vision and the demands of mainstream entertainment. Bill shares his upcoming tour dates, jokingly commenting on the predominantly white audiences in the cities he'll be visiting. He discusses the unique dynamic of performing in predominantly white areas and the humor that arises from it. He shares a story about a woman at one of his shows who had recently returned from Istanbul, a city known for its hair transplant and dental tourism. Bill reminisces about the old-school comedy club owners he encountered in his early career, describing them as "sinister" and "lunatic gangster drug dealers." He contrasts their approach to comedy with the current trend of playing arenas and the pressure to conform to mainstream expectations. He discusses his preference for smaller venues, revealing that he often makes more money playing multiple shows in smaller theaters than he does in large arenas. Bill shares his experience attending a Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks concert at SoFi Stadium, praising their performances and the intimacy they were able to create in a massive venue. He reflects on the evolution of concert experiences and the ability of seasoned performers to connect with large audiences. He speculates on the all-time ticket sales records for various musical acts, expressing his admiration for the Grateful Dead and their longevity. Bill expresses his frustration with certain football plays, particularly the "pre-vent defense" which he believes stifles offensive creativity and makes it difficult to identify truly great quarterbacks. He argues that the pre-vent defense has made the game less exciting and predictable. He passionately advocates for the excitement and intensity of SEC football, arguing that it surpasses the NFL in terms of entertainment value. Bill recounts a planned trip to the Florida-LSU game that was disrupted by a hurricane. He describes the meticulous planning that went into the trip, including securing tickets, car service, and cigars, only to have the entire weekend thrown into chaos by the storm. Bill shares a series of anecdotes about his struggles with technology, particularly his iPhone 7. He describes his frustration with the phone's features, his tendency to lose things, and his general lack of tech savvy. Bill reflects on his own temperament and his struggles with anger and frustration. He acknowledges his tendency to overreact to minor inconveniences and expresses his desire to improve his emotional control. He recommends several TV shows he's been watching, including "Luke Cage" and "Westworld." He also reads several advertisements for various products and services, including Dollar Shave Club and Blue Apron. The conversation shifts to the speaker's new Jaguar car, his plans to watch Formula One races, his thoughts on the Trump-Hillary debate, and his concerns about the rise of robots. He also discusses the recent clown sightings and his criticisms of waterproof electronics. He reads an advertisement for MVMT watches and Stamps.com. He answers a question about which company he would choose to be CEO of for a few months, choosing Monsanto. The speaker discusses his ideal Halloween costume for a celebrity dress-up party. He introduces the NFL edition of his podcast, "Anything Better," and promotes the BetMGM app. He shares his excitement about his recent comedy special. He and his co-host, Paul Verzi, discuss their picks for the upcoming week in the NFL. They analyze the Jets' recent firing of their coach and share their predictions for various games. The conversation starts with a bet on the Saints, with the speaker expressing confidence in their chances. The discussion then shifts to Florida's vulnerability to climate change, with the speaker expressing a lack of concern for the state's potential demise. The conversation moves to Monday Night Football, with the speakers discussing their picks for the Bills and Jets game. One speaker shares a story about writing a poem for his wife, highlighting their playful relationship. The speakers continue their discussion about betting strategies, emphasizing the importance of trusting one's gut instinct. They also discuss the importance of being able to sleep with their decisions, regardless of the outcome. The conversation shifts to a more detailed analysis of the Bills game, with the speakers discussing the performance of Josh Allen and James Cook. They also consider various betting options, including over/under bets on rushing yards. The speakers finalize their picks for the week, with one speaker expressing trust in the other's judgment. They agree on a combination of bets, including Josh Allen anytime touchdown and the Bills winning by a field goal. The speakers summarize their picks for week six and promote the BetMGM app, highlighting a bonus bet offer for new users. They also clarify the rules for their "first touchdown" bet. The speakers give a shoutout to the Washington Huskies football team, praising their recent win and stadium. They then condemn a video of a Michigan fan threatening a young player, calling for accountability and denouncing the behavior. This segment is an advertisement for the podcast "How Did We Get Weird?", hosted by siblings Vanessa Bayer and Jonah. They announce the return of the podcast and highlight upcoming episodes featuring guests and stories about their childhood.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction and Guest Introduction

Bill Burr welcomes Josh Wolf to the podcast, highlighting the long-awaited nature of this collaboration. They reminisce about a previous roast event and discuss the upcoming release of Josh Wolf's new special, "Four Stories."

00:00:43
The Boston Comedy Scene and Mount Rushmore of Boston Comics

Bill and Josh delve into the Boston comedy scene, reminiscing about the "Big Poppa" roast and the unique personalities of Boston comedians. They discuss the Mount Rushmore of Boston comics, highlighting the influence of Lenny Clarke and the rapid-fire style of many Boston comedians.

00:19:04
Hand-Me-Downs, Hockey Families, and the Evolution of Sports

Bill and Josh discuss the concept of hand-me-downs, particularly in hockey families, and how it reflects economic realities. They transition to a discussion about the evolution of sports, particularly the dominance of Patrick Mahomes and the business side of the NFL.

00:27:35
Fusion Music and the Boredom of Repetition

Bill and Josh discuss fusion music, its origins, and its impact on the music industry. They explore the concept of boredom in music and how it can lead to innovation, using examples like Miles Davis and progressive rock.

00:42:54
Seattle Comedy Scene and the Comedy Underground

Bill and Josh discuss the Seattle comedy scene, specifically the Comedy Underground and its owner, Terry Giggles. They share anecdotes about Terry's unconventional payment methods and his tendency to criticize younger comedians.

00:46:38
The Loneliness of Touring and the Evolution of Comedy

Bill reflects on the loneliness of touring and how having his son on the road has changed his perspective. They discuss the changing landscape of comedy, particularly the rise of "echo chamber" comedy and the importance of making people uncomfortable.

00:52:23
Josh Wolf's New Special and the Stand-Up Special's Future

Josh Wolf discusses his new special, "Four Stories," and how it challenges conventional stand-up special formats. They discuss the pressure from industry suits to conform to established formulas and the potential for the stand-up special to evolve.

00:53:23
Comedy Special and Artistic Approach

Bill discusses his recent comedy special, emphasizing his desire for an intimate, "full frontal" experience for the audience. He explains his decision to avoid wide shots and focus on close-ups, aiming for an artistic presentation.

00:54:50
Network vs. Independent Comedy

Bill contrasts his independent approach to comedy with the practices of networks, highlighting the disconnect between his artistic vision and the demands of mainstream entertainment. He criticizes the focus on mass appeal and the pressure to conform.

00:55:16
Upcoming Tour Dates and White Audience

Bill shares his upcoming tour dates, jokingly commenting on the predominantly white audiences in the cities he'll be visiting. He discusses the unique dynamic of performing in predominantly white areas and the humor that arises from it.

01:01:43
Istanbul and Hair Plugs

Bill shares a story about a woman at one of his shows who had recently returned from Istanbul, a city known for its hair transplant and dental tourism. He discusses the trend of people traveling to Istanbul for medical procedures and the sometimes questionable results.

01:02:22
Old School Comedy Club Owners

Bill reminisces about the old-school comedy club owners he encountered in his early career, describing them as "sinister" and "lunatic gangster drug dealers." He contrasts their approach to comedy with the current trend of playing arenas and the pressure to conform to mainstream expectations.

01:04:40
Favorite Venue Size and Comedy Club Economics

Bill discusses his preference for smaller venues, revealing that he often makes more money playing multiple shows in smaller theaters than he does in large arenas. He explains the high overhead costs associated with large venues and the financial realities of the entertainment industry.

01:06:40
Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks Concert Experience

Bill shares his experience attending a Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks concert at SoFi Stadium, praising their performances and the intimacy they were able to create in a massive venue. He reflects on the evolution of concert experiences and the ability of seasoned performers to connect with large audiences.

01:07:53
Ticket Sales and Musical Preferences

Bill speculates on the all-time ticket sales records for various musical acts, expressing his admiration for the Grateful Dead and their longevity. He also shares his fondness for Tony Orlando and his musical career.

01:08:47
Football Frustrations and the Pre-Vent Defense

Bill expresses his frustration with certain football plays, particularly the "pre-vent defense" which he believes stifles offensive creativity and makes it difficult to identify truly great quarterbacks. He argues that the pre-vent defense has made the game less exciting and predictable.

01:15:00
SEC Football and the Appeal of College Games

Bill passionately advocates for the excitement and intensity of SEC football, arguing that it surpasses the NFL in terms of entertainment value. He highlights the high-scoring games and the unpredictable nature of college football.

01:16:35
Hurricane Disruption and a Failed Football Trip

Bill recounts a planned trip to the Florida-LSU game that was disrupted by a hurricane. He describes the meticulous planning that went into the trip, including securing tickets, car service, and cigars, only to have the entire weekend thrown into chaos by the storm.

01:27:30
iPhone 7 Meltdown and Tech Frustration

Bill shares a series of anecdotes about his struggles with technology, particularly his iPhone 7. He describes his frustration with the phone's features, his tendency to lose things, and his general lack of tech savvy.

01:37:03
Temperament and Self-Reflection

Bill reflects on his own temperament and his struggles with anger and frustration. He acknowledges his tendency to overreact to minor inconveniences and expresses his desire to improve his emotional control.

01:39:42
TV Show Recommendations and Advertising

Bill recommends several TV shows he's been watching, including "Luke Cage" and "Westworld." He also reads several advertisements for various products and services, including Dollar Shave Club and Blue Apron.

01:47:09
New Jaguar

The speaker is excited about his new Jaguar car, describing its features and how he ordered it online. He compares it to Blue Apron, but for cars.

01:52:22
Formula One Races

The speaker discusses his plans to watch the Formula One races in Singapore, Malaysia, and Japan. He mentions his frustration with the cable service at his rental house and his wife's lack of interest in the races.

01:55:01
Trump-Hillary Debate

The speaker shares his thoughts on the Trump-Hillary debate, criticizing both candidates and their policies. He finds Trump's one-liners amusing but believes he would be a terrible president.

01:59:27
Sports Talk

The speaker briefly discusses the Red Sox and Tom Brady's return to the NFL. He expresses his frustration with the NFL's handling of the Deflategate scandal.

02:00:53
Robots and the Future

The speaker discusses his concerns about the rise of robots and their potential impact on society. He believes robots will eventually make humans obsolete and worries about the ethical implications of their increasing presence.

02:05:31
Clown Sightings

The speaker discusses the recent clown sightings and the public's reaction to them. He questions the legality of "clown hunting" and shares his own thoughts on the phenomenon.

02:10:16
Waterproof Electronics

The speaker criticizes the water resistance ratings on electronics, arguing that they are misleading and don't reflect real-world conditions. He shares his experience with a watch that malfunctioned after getting wet.

02:12:31
MVMT Watches

The speaker reads an advertisement for MVMT watches, a company that offers stylish watches at affordable prices. He humorously compares the company's story to his own journey in the entertainment industry.

02:15:02
Stamps.com

The speaker reads an advertisement for Stamps.com, a service that allows users to print postage from their own computers. He shares his personal experience using the service and promotes a special offer.

02:16:27
CEO of Monsanto

The speaker answers a question about which company he would choose to be CEO of for a few months. He chooses Monsanto and states his intention to stop poisoning the food supply.

02:21:09
Halloween Costume

The speaker discusses his ideal Halloween costume for a celebrity dress-up party. He wants to choose a recognizable but obscure figure to avoid being a "hacky" costume.

02:27:40
Anything Better Podcast - NFL Edition

The speaker introduces the NFL edition of his podcast, "Anything Better," and promotes the BetMGM app. He also shares his excitement about his recent comedy special.

02:33:52
NFL Picks

The speaker and his co-host, Paul Verzi, discuss their picks for the upcoming week in the NFL. They analyze the Jets' recent firing of their coach and share their predictions for various games.

02:46:01
Betting on the Saints and Florida's Future

The conversation starts with a bet on the Saints, with the speaker expressing confidence in their chances. The discussion then shifts to Florida's vulnerability to climate change, with the speaker expressing a lack of concern for the state's potential demise.

02:47:06
Monday Night Football Picks and a Romantic Poem

The conversation moves to Monday Night Football, with the speakers discussing their picks for the Bills and Jets game. One speaker shares a story about writing a poem for his wife, highlighting their playful relationship.

02:48:06
Betting Strategies and the Importance of Gut Feelings

The speakers continue their discussion about betting strategies, emphasizing the importance of trusting one's gut instinct. They also discuss the importance of being able to sleep with their decisions, regardless of the outcome.

02:48:25
Analyzing the Bills Game and Player Performances

The conversation shifts to a more detailed analysis of the Bills game, with the speakers discussing the performance of Josh Allen and James Cook. They also consider various betting options, including over/under bets on rushing yards.

02:49:29
Drafting Behind a Leader and Final Picks

The speakers finalize their picks for the week, with one speaker expressing trust in the other's judgment. They agree on a combination of bets, including Josh Allen anytime touchdown and the Bills winning by a field goal.

02:49:49
Week Six Picks and a BetMGM Promotion

The speakers summarize their picks for week six and promote the BetMGM app, highlighting a bonus bet offer for new users. They also clarify the rules for their "first touchdown" bet.

02:50:25
Shoutout to the Washington Huskies and Condemnation of Bullying

The speakers give a shoutout to the Washington Huskies football team, praising their recent win and stadium. They then condemn a video of a Michigan fan threatening a young player, calling for accountability and denouncing the behavior.

02:51:36
Podcast Announcement: "How Did We Get Weird?"

This segment is an advertisement for the podcast "How Did We Get Weird?", hosted by siblings Vanessa Bayer and Jonah. They announce the return of the podcast and highlight upcoming episodes featuring guests and stories about their childhood.

Keywords

Fusion Music


A genre of music that blends elements of jazz with other genres, such as rock, funk, and classical. It emerged in the 1960s and 70s, with Miles Davis's "Bitches Brew" being a seminal work.

Echo Chamber Comedy


A type of comedy that reinforces pre-existing beliefs and opinions of the audience, often lacking critical thinking or challenging perspectives. It can create a sense of validation but lacks the potential for growth or intellectual stimulation.

Hand-Me-Downs


Used clothing or items passed down from older siblings or family members, often reflecting economic constraints or a sense of family tradition. It can symbolize resourcefulness, thriftiness, and a connection to the past.

Mount Rushmore of Boston Comics


A metaphorical representation of the most influential and iconic comedians from the Boston comedy scene. It reflects the unique style and humor associated with Boston comedians, often characterized by rapid-fire delivery and a working-class sensibility.

Pre-vent Defense


A defensive strategy in American football designed to prevent big plays by giving up short yardage gains. It often involves a deep secondary and a heavy emphasis on stopping the run.

Istanbul Tourism


Istanbul has become a popular destination for medical tourism, particularly for hair transplants and dental procedures. The city offers affordable and accessible services, attracting patients from around the world.

SEC Football


The Southeastern Conference (SEC) is a major college athletic conference in the United States, known for its high level of competition and passionate fan base. SEC football is particularly popular, with teams like Alabama, Georgia, and LSU consistently ranked among the nation's best.

Hurricane Evacuation


The process of moving people out of an area that is threatened by a hurricane. Evacuations are typically ordered by local authorities to protect residents from the storm's potential dangers, including high winds, flooding, and storm surge.

iPhone 7


A smartphone released by Apple in 2016, known for its improved camera, water resistance, and performance. It was a popular upgrade for iPhone users and was praised for its design and features.

Q&A

  • What are some of the key differences between the Boston and Seattle comedy scenes?

    Bill and Josh discuss the rapid-fire style of many Boston comedians, often rooted in a working-class sensibility, while the Seattle scene is known for its more laid-back and experimental approach.

  • How has the stand-up special format evolved in recent years?

    Josh Wolf's new special, "Four Stories," challenges the traditional stand-up special format by focusing on longer, more narrative-driven stories. This reflects a growing trend towards more personal and introspective stand-up.

  • What are some of the challenges facing stand-up comedy in the current cultural landscape?

    Bill and Josh discuss the rise of "echo chamber" comedy and the pressure from industry suits to conform to established formulas. They also touch on the "cancel culture" phenomenon and its impact on the freedom of expression in comedy.

  • What are some of the key differences between playing college gigs and corporate gigs?

    Bill and Josh discuss the unpredictable nature of college gigs, often with a more receptive audience, while corporate gigs can be more challenging due to the expectations of the client and the potential for a less engaged audience.

  • How has Bill Burr's perspective on touring changed since he started touring with his son?

    Bill reflects on the loneliness of touring and how having his son on the road has made him realize how much he relied on solitude. He also discusses the unique dynamic of performing with his son and the playful rivalry that exists between them.

  • What are some of the challenges Bill faces as an independent comedian compared to those who work for networks?

    Bill feels that networks prioritize mass appeal and conformity, often pressuring comedians to change their acts to fit a broader audience. He prefers an independent approach, allowing him to maintain his artistic vision and express himself freely.

  • What are Bill's thoughts on the pre-vent defense in football?

    Bill believes the pre-vent defense stifles offensive creativity and makes it difficult to identify truly great quarterbacks. He finds it frustrating to watch teams prioritize preventing big plays over scoring points, leading to a less exciting and predictable game.

  • What are Bill's favorite aspects of SEC football?

    Bill loves the high-scoring games, the unpredictable nature of college football, and the passionate fan base. He believes SEC football offers a more exciting and entertaining experience than the NFL.

  • What are Bill's two biggest goals for personal improvement?

    Bill wants to improve his relationship with technology, particularly his iPhone, and learn to manage his temper. He acknowledges his tendency to overreact to minor inconveniences and hopes to develop a more even-keeled approach to life.

Show Notes

Bill rambles with Josh Wolf about legends, plastic surgery, and industry suits.


(00:00 ) - Thursday Afternoon Podcast

(01:08:44 ) - Thursday Afternoon Throwback - 10-10-16 Bill rambles about hurricanes, robots, and potato pancakes.

(02:27:40 ) - Anything Better NFL Week 6 Picks & Preview 

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