Togetherness or even deep connection are not a given in hybrid experiences, is one of the lessons learned for Toolkit-member and affect lab founder Klasien van de Zandschulp. Talking to artist duo Martina Seitl & Christer Lundahl about this, she shows togetherness in hybrid settings may feel a bit awkward sometimes. So careful onboarding and aftercare are essential, and it does help to let our senses play a big part.