This episode was recorded on September 28, 2004.

From the show notes, preserved on archive.org, written by Adam: "I've learned over the past weeks to always have the audio recording setup ready when Dave and I chat. We always talk voip and have been trying different setups and applications. But inadvertantly, one of will say "we should be recording this" and I flip the switch. This morning Dave was up early and we recorded a podcast, where we talked about 'leakage', played some prince and finally got the sip-phone stuff working"

Dave's notes on 8:05:26 AM">scripting.com: "In it Adam and I discuss the merits of Mac vs Windows. Now of course I'm getting (friendly) email from people suggesting that I get a Mac. I'll make a deal. If John Kerry wins I'll get a Mac."

36 minute podcast.