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Vanessa Williams - ‘It would be hard to be married to me!’

Vanessa Williams - ‘It would be hard to be married to me!’

Update: 2025-07-161
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As a recording artist, Vanessa Williams has earned 13 Grammy nominations and racked up over 212 million digital streams over the course of her eight albums. Her most popular hit, Save The Best For Last, was Number 1 for five weeks in 1992.


She is also a highly successful stage and screen actor, appearing in Desperate Housewives and Ugly Betty. She is currently starring on the West End stage as Miranda Priestly in the musical adaptation of The Devil Wears Prada.


It’s all a long way from her historic crowning as the first African-American Miss America in 1983 - she was later forced to resign after unauthorised photos taken when she was a student were leaked without her consent. 




Vanessa joins us for an honest, hilarious and no-holds-barred conversation about her childhood, her romantic relationships, and - in a How To Fail first - why she regrets sending her daughter to boarding school.




Elizabeth and Vanessa answer YOUR questions in our subscriber series, Failing with Friends. Join our community of subscribers here: https://howtofail.supportingcast.fm/#content




00:00  Intro


02:47  Overcoming Scandal and Achieving Success


06:24  The Joys and Challenges of Stage Performance


10:31  Reflecting on Miss America


18:30  Family and Personal Reflections


23:40  Looking at Transparency and Shared Struggles


24:11  The Impact of Losing a Mother


26:00  A Mother's Influence on Trust and Relationships


28:51  Navigating High School Friendships and Trust Issues


30:07  Romantic Relationships and Parental Approval


34:58  Coping with Parental Loss and Family Dynamics


43:41  Musical Legacy and Family Bonds




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I have an upcoming one-off show at Cadogan Hall on 21 Sep for my new novel One of Us. Full show details here: ⁠https://www.fane.co.uk/elizabeth-day




Production & Post Production Coordinator: Eric Ryan  


Studio & Sound Engineer: Matias Torres


Assistant Producer: Suhaar Ali


Senior Producer: Hannah Talbot


Executive Producer: Carly Maile




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Vanessa Williams - ‘It would be hard to be married to me!’

Vanessa Williams - ‘It would be hard to be married to me!’

Elizabeth Day and Sony Music Entertainment