This week Taryn delves into Andrew Judd's own personal journey around Māori wards. In this raw, honest and deeply human episode Andrew reveals how he came to the realisation he was racist, why he will always be a recovering racist, and how he transformed his personal awakening into a broader mission.

His story is a lens into how one person’s commitment to doing the right thing, even when unpopular, can ripple outward and create national change. Across Aotearoa, Andrew helped normalise the idea that Pākehā have work to do in honouring Te Tiriti, but that came at an enormous personal and professional cost to him.

In the second episode of WTH Are Māori wards, Andrew reflects on a journey that has challenged his identity, cost him his comfort, and ultimately transformed the way he sees race, power, and what it really means to honour Te Tiriti o Waitangi.