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Six Feet Under with Mark CalawayWWE, Netflix, & John Cena’s Farewell: Undertaker Talks Wrestling’s Future | Six Feet Under #49 Part 2
Six Feet Under with Mark CalawayWWE, Netflix, & John Cena’s Farewell: Undertaker Talks Wrestling’s Future | Six Feet Under #49 Part 2
WWE, Netflix, & John Cena’s Farewell: Undertaker Talks Wrestling’s Future | Six Feet Under #49 Part 2
Update: 2025-01-20
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In this episode of Six Feet Under, Mark Callaway discusses the exciting future of WWE, including their new Netflix deal and the behind-the-scenes process of creating WWE Superstars. He also shares his thoughts on John Cena’s upcoming farewell tour and the challenges of balancing his busy schedule with family time.
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00:00:00
It's crazy how different now,
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the business model is the guys for one,
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they're not out grinding, man.
00:00:28
They have a limited, which is good and bad, but there's a limited amount of live events, which at this point in the revenue that's being generated is not generated by live events like it used to be when I come up,
00:00:46
I mean we made as many live events as we possibly could because that's how we got paid, it was part of it, it was live events, pay per views.
00:00:55
There were no five billion dollar deals, no made, no, no, no, it's crazy, there were no five.
00:01:04
Crazy, billion dollar TV deals made, it's not, not mill, bill, billies, billies,
00:01:14
I mean it's which that what that allows and in today's era of everyone's got one of these, right?
00:01:23
And everyone's recording the match on a house show.
00:01:28
What that allows is almost almost feels like we can go back to a little bit more K-fable, we don't necessarily know what's going on, a little bit more.
00:01:37
I would love that.
00:01:38
I would love that.
00:01:39
And it's going to be the case.
00:01:40
Yeah.
00:01:41
I mean that now the guys and the guys need to be able to get that time in the ring and I think that those house shows a lot of that.
00:01:48
Yeah, that's the, that's the one, I think for me, and it doesn't matter because that's the one area that I think they need to,
00:02:00
like they need to sharpen reps, reps, like you live events.
00:02:07
Obviously, I mean, we made our money in live events, but we also, we honed our skills and we tried new things in live events because you know, you don't want to go and do something new or try an idea on live TV and it should the bed and then you're like,
00:02:23
oh, that's, you know, that might have hurt my, my ascension right there.
00:02:27
Yeah.
00:02:28
You do it in live events and no, you know, you're no worse for where you go, oh, that didn't work.
00:02:34
Yeah, I just think, I know you're trying, they're trying to preserve the talent, the bodies.
00:02:41
They're trying to keep them healthy.
00:02:45
But you get, you get, you know, iron sharpens, irons, right?
00:02:49
So you need, I think you need some of those reps to keep your body sharp.
00:02:56
And I could, I'm just thinking, I'm just talking about my perspective.
00:02:58
I, I don't know the perspective of today's athlete in, in WWE, they could be, you know, they may watch this and say, hey, dude,
00:03:08
you might want to just shut up before you screw our deal up.
00:03:12
You know, the guys are watching the show now.
00:03:15
Oh, my God.
00:03:16
Oh, all right.
00:03:18
I mean, you know, things are great.
00:03:20
I get to be home.
00:03:21
Yeah, like so, like I don't, like I don't even know.
00:03:24
I mean, because obviously everyone takes better care of themselves.
00:03:26
Yeah.
00:03:27
Everybody's eating better.
00:03:28
Everybody, yeah, you know, you guys were, yeah, four deep in a Taurus going through McDonald's, you know, drop through.
00:03:34
Yeah.
00:03:35
And that was taking the bun off was what was healthy.
00:03:37
Yeah.
00:03:38
I mean, that's what you do.
00:03:40
Yeah, you keep the cheese and, yeah, you eat the meatballs and your pie, get rid of the bun.
00:03:45
Yeah, just eat half the fries.
00:03:46
You don't have to eat all the fries and a diet coke.
00:03:48
Yeah, just make sure you get the diet coke.
00:03:49
That's the key.
00:03:50
That ties it all together.
00:03:51
That's your diet.
00:03:52
Well, Mark, we're halfway through this episode.
00:03:55
You know what that means?
00:03:56
The only way to get through it is some first form energy.
00:03:59
Yep.
00:04:00
So we are the only ones not asleep.
00:04:02
Oh, well, first form energy, got a little scream and freedom here.
00:04:07
Mmm.
00:04:08
Oh, man.
00:04:09
I'm going to be able to make it through the rest of this episode, crack open a first form and get some energy with us, cause that's all the way we're going to finish this episode out, I think.
00:04:17
Yeah.
00:04:18
Oh, that's good.
00:04:19
Yeah.
00:04:20
They're all good.
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00:04:23
So I don't know.
00:04:24
Like, I did.
00:04:25
I was, I think I was talking, I talked to a couple of people of the today's talent.
00:04:30
Right.
00:04:31
I think someone with Damien and I think he was kind of in that mindset too.
00:04:37
I'd like to work a few more, more house shows.
00:04:41
Yeah.
00:04:42
But again, most people, you know, I don't know that they, they care enough, I shouldn't say care enough.
00:04:49
That's not the, that's not probably the right word.
00:04:52
But I think, I don't know, and I think they're, they're enjoying, they're enjoying a pretty damn good.
00:05:00
I mean, no, we can't blame them at all like, dude, I mean, she's,
00:05:11
you got to think that things that you were four or five times a week, four or five, four, say four or five times a month.
00:05:17
Just maybe I don't know four or five, say four, four, four, four, all right.
00:05:24
We'll say six times work, work six times a month, making, you know, a ridiculous boo-coos amounts of money.
00:05:33
Probably, let's call it a hundred K a month.
00:05:36
I'm just saying.
00:05:37
That's good.
00:05:38
That's good.
00:05:39
I know.
00:05:40
And I, and I'm happy, but I'm happy for that because what I worry about though is not having those reps where now we've got every TV angle that, to imagine like,
00:05:50
you're going to catch when somebody, when, when you're not.
00:05:53
Not sharp and you're not doing it the right way and it's not being done the right way and the fan base is going to see it, and they're going to, and that's how you go from Cody Rhodes,
00:06:05
you being the greatest thing ever right now to the fans turning on yet.
00:06:09
If they see that you're not hitting your spots the right way, and you're not doing the thing the right way.
00:06:15
And that's where I'm like, you got to get those reps in and you've got to be willing to go out and, and, and grind a little bit in those house shows.
00:06:24
You don't have to grind.
00:06:25
You don't have to grind like we do.
00:06:26
No, it is going from six to maybe eight.
00:06:29
You know what I mean?
00:06:30
Just those two extra matches could mean the world when it comes to working on something that you're, you've got an idea for because if you've got an idea that you think or you know, man, this would go over like hotcakes,
00:06:42
but you don't have a time to work it out before you go on netflix, on Netflix live.
00:06:49
And you're really going to work it out because I don't have the balls to go try something new on that stage on, you know, that big of a stage.
00:06:57
Yeah.
00:06:58
It's a different.
00:06:59
For them, it is, it is, it is a different, it's such a different era that like I don't, if somebody, I guess I say like somebody approaches me about it,
00:07:10
I will give them my thoughts.
00:07:11
Yeah.
00:07:12
But I don't know that I, I know, I don't know the product or talent well enough at this point to say, so athletic to the other part, but yeah,
00:07:23
it's just, you know what, tell it, tell it breaks, you gotta keep, you ride it on, ride that way, you can get them.
00:07:32
You know what I mean?
00:07:33
Yeah.
00:07:34
And that's, that's the thing too.
00:07:35
I mean, even if it's not in how shows, you got to figure out where you can, you know, you're going to go down to florida and, yeah, I think everybody lives down there pretty much, but I mean, yeah.
00:07:45
But it's, it's so exciting, man.
00:07:48
Do you think that, and once again, this is a Mark Calloway opinion.
00:07:54
Do you think that WWE will ever have a major premium live event on Netflix?
00:08:04
Jesus, almost like every Monday is a premium live, well it is, I mean, raw is its own premium live event.
00:08:10
But I'm talking at main, I'm talking survivor series, rumble.
00:08:13
I'm sure at some point, they will, they will come up with an angle that, that it'll be, it'll be some kind of super mega show, you got to deal.
00:08:24
I don't see how moving forward, and this is a matte light opinion.
00:08:31
WWE just doesn't move all their product to Netflix at some point.
00:08:39
You want to talk about getting overshadowed right now.
00:08:43
SmackDown sure does fill out the baby brother, you know what I mean?
00:08:51
You know, coming up with what just happened, yeah, but okay, so, but the, the money that all goes into the same kitty, not, and the TV rights or the USA gives for SmackDown now or,
00:09:04
or probably, yeah, I don't know what they are, but I'm sure they're pretty healthy.
00:09:08
If all is equal money wise, I don't care.
00:09:11
If you're on SmackDown and you just saw what just happened on Netflix, you were, you were looking at that as, you know,
00:09:22
hopefully the talent's looking at it as we need to go out, you know, Friday night, and we need to burn the house down, yeah, is what we need to do.
00:09:31
And hopefully that's what they're thinking, and hopefully that's what they're gonna do.
00:09:36
And from there, if I'm, you know, talent on SmackDown, I'm going, yeah, man, what a stage to be able to wrestle right there at Netflix.
00:09:45
Like, it's an, it's incredible, man, but it's, yeah, I, it's really interesting to think about where, where things go from.
00:09:54
Yes.
00:09:55
This was such a major move from sports entertainment industry.
00:10:04
And you also got to think even just from your time, showing up, you know, to WWE, but you looked from, it's called 80, was it 85 when Vince took it over or something like that?
00:10:14
Eddie.
00:10:15
No, he took it.
00:10:16
When did he take over?
00:10:18
Four then.
00:10:19
Did he?
00:10:20
Wait, 80s?
00:10:21
It went to start.
00:10:22
90.
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80.
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I was.
00:10:25
It's the 84, 84.
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83, 84.
00:10:27
He took it somewhere in there.
00:10:28
Yeah.
00:10:29
Somewhere in there.
00:10:30
We're talking 40 years here and at 40 year time span, how far professional wrestling has come?
00:10:43
Yeah.
00:10:44
It's crazy because I'm looking, because I look back again, so we just have this incredible Netflix thing.
00:10:51
But again, I look back to how big and significant going to live TV was for the rest.
00:11:00
Just think about that.
00:11:02
Because prior to, what was it, January 1993, we taped everything.
00:11:11
We taped everything and everything, all your only talent that you saw were talent in enhancement matches, right?
00:11:19
I see any main event kind of stuff that you started getting on live TV.
00:11:23
So just think from that, how big that was for the wrestling industry to, here we are, you know,
00:11:33
40 years, 31 years, 31 years, from 91 years later, to something that is just mind blowing,
00:11:44
how it's just, it's crazy.
00:11:47
That was, I mean, that, for me, that was the, the thing like, the real icing on the cake is actually be a part of both of those shows.
00:11:55
Yeah.
00:11:56
So whatever happens, 31 more years, like I don't think I'm going to be around for.
00:12:01
So it was kind of cool to say that I was like two of the biggest things that have happened in the wrestling industry I was a part of, it's pretty cool.
00:12:11
Yeah.
00:12:12
And your significant reason of why WWE has grown and progressed the way that it did to be able to get a deal like they did with Netflix, I mean, your characters, what, you know, helped make that happen.
00:12:23
Yeah, it's, it's, it's nuts, man, to try to kind of put everything into, into some kind of perspective, but my goodness, I'm, I'm, I'm really proud.
00:12:34
I really have this like this, this, this kind of this proud Papa feeling, yeah, because I, of where I come from,
00:12:44
and the struggles that, that we had, you were there in the lean town.
00:12:50
Do you mean lean, lean?
00:12:51
It's not to work.
00:12:52
You were in the peaks in the valley.
00:12:53
Yeah.
00:12:54
I mean, you were in the trenches and, yeah, and, and, and, and to have nights like, you know, the premiere was just like,
00:13:04
wow, yeah, to know that, I mean, it was at one point more than likely, where, you know, there might have been some, some thoughts going through your head of,
00:13:14
I wonder if this check's going to, going to clear, man, you kidding me?
00:13:20
Like, I, because they're going clear, am I even going to get it?
00:13:23
Do I have to get to the bank to even deposit it?
00:13:26
Man.
00:13:27
Yeah.
00:13:28
Right?
00:13:29
Dude, it was, yeah, it was some very lean, lean, lean years.
00:13:34
And there's a, there's a big grind that happens with that.
00:13:37
And then you look at a guy like Triple H who is, you know, the face of the company now, and he's that leader, you know, of the company when it comes to that corporate side of WWE.
00:13:47
And, you know, he was, you know, he was there through the, you know, some of the grind as well, you know what I mean?
00:13:54
Yeah, he experiences that as well.
00:13:57
And for him to be on this side of it now, and to be leading WWE into this new era that we've seen over the last couple of years,
00:14:07
and now into the Netflix era, super proud of that as well.
00:14:11
And I think it's awesome that it's kind of one of the boys, you know what I mean?
00:14:16
Yeah.
00:14:17
No, absolutely.
00:14:18
Yeah.
00:14:19
For sure.
00:14:20
Yeah.
00:14:21
That makes it, I feel like even more special.
00:14:22
Yeah.
00:14:23
Yeah.
00:14:24
Sometimes he gets, he doesn't get a lot of credit.
00:14:26
I mean, he gets a lot of credit at, well, deserve credit, but also he gets a little heat to thinking that something was handed to him, which it wasn't, I mean, he earned, I mean,
00:14:36
he earned everything.
00:14:37
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They're not just handing a job to just anybody.
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So they're not just going to let just anybody run the company.
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You better know what you're doing.
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If you don't know what you're doing, you're going to get replaced pretty quick.
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It gives the talent a bit of confidence that everything is, everything is in good hands and all they have to do is go out and do their thing.
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They don't have to worry about anything else, other really than performing.
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And whoever's on our roof.
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Oh, no, I, I love the fact that Rawls on Netflix, I love the fact that we have going into this.
00:19:05
I'm like I said, I'm looking forward to seeing what Rawls looks like just on a normal Monday night now, versus that kind of grand opening night that they did.
00:19:15
And, you know, you coming out seeing, seeing that come out and hoagin and everybody, it just very nostalgic kind of night.
00:19:24
But I think it was also like a night where we got to see some nostalgia.
00:19:28
But we also got the, we got to see today's talent, how great they were.
00:19:33
There was some phenomenal matches that happened.
00:19:36
Like that was a Monday night, that Monday night felt like a, almost like a premium live event night.
00:19:42
You got, you got Roman and Solo, you got, uh, Rhea, that live, that was the match that opened the night.
00:19:50
Yeah.
00:19:51
When you got Roman opening up the night, like, I'm sitting there thinking, who's main of winning tonight?
00:19:57
And these guys are the, the, the first match you, and you had Rhea wins the title against live, you know, that's, I mean, it was the last time you saw a world championship get exchanged on just live TV.
00:20:13
It was a big night, man.
00:20:14
I mean, I was, I don't know, I don't know if they were, they were finishing things off or they started to sit in the table for, what's to come.
00:20:25
Yeah.
00:20:26
But, uh, yeah, I think, man, I, obviously, I don't think, I don't think that every week is going to be, uh, it's going to be stacked like that.
00:20:38
But I think the, I mean, it'll still be, it'll, it's going to be phenomenal quality.
00:20:43
They, you know, they did something to where, um, you know, they did a, a segment about Logan Paul also on there and, you know, showed him in the crowd and everything.
00:20:52
And there was a, a rumor that Logan Paul was never going to get back on the wrestling ring again.
00:20:57
That was kind of a thing all over the internet, you know, all the marks were kind of throwing that out there.
00:21:03
But it looks like Logan is definitely going to be back.
00:21:06
I would, I imagine that we'll probably see him in the Royal Rumble if I was a betting man.
00:21:11
I would think.
00:21:12
Yeah.
00:21:13
Yeah.
00:21:14
And kind of start his resurgence back into the, the business again, it's funny when I say things like that, people like Roller, I was like, like, I don't know, I don't know crap anything.
00:21:23
I don't know anything about anything.
00:21:25
It's, it's, it's actually kind of refreshing, yeah, to not have to know everything that's going on.
00:21:32
But people always look at me like, hey, what's going on with such a, yeah, got no clue?
00:21:37
When's that going to end?
00:21:38
When's that going to end?
00:21:39
I'm just going to know.
00:21:40
I didn't even know they were working.
00:21:41
They're still in the middle.
00:21:43
Do you not watch the show?
00:21:44
I like, yeah, I watch it sometimes.
00:21:47
So I do have a question for you for this.
00:21:52
What do you think 20, 25's going to look like for Sing Now?
00:21:59
I think it's going to be a, I think it's going to be a great swan song year for him.
00:22:08
It's going to be the, I think it'll be the equivalent to, you know, like they've done in the NBA, like when all those, the legends kind of on their last year and they get to go to all these different towns and,
00:22:24
uh, I get their flowers, they get your flowers in each town, right?
00:22:28
Uh, I think, you know, Cena was a workhorse huge star for a lot of years and I think it's, it's really cool the way they have this,
00:22:38
uh, kind of laid out, uh, you know, then we've got a certain amount of dates he's going to make, certain amount of premium live events he's going to make and it's going to give people a chance to,
00:22:50
uh, you know, kind of, again, give him his flowers, give him his props, letting him, you know, say, say goodbye.
00:22:58
It's a, it's a cool way of doing it and I think, um, you know, I don't, I don't expect anything like crazy.
00:23:07
I think he's going to get some good wins.
00:23:08
I think he's going to probably, you know, take some owls, uh, but I think overall it's going to be great, uh, it's going to be great for the WWE fan base to be able because,
00:23:21
uh, you know, a lot of times guys will just, you know, they'll, they'll announce their retirement and that's it.
00:23:28
Yeah.
00:23:29
Or they come back and then they were talking with the retire again, and they come back and we do it again.
00:23:34
I don't know anybody personally like that, but anyway, but he knows how to tell story to you.
00:23:44
Cena knows how to tell story.
00:23:45
Yeah.
00:23:46
And I think that's what we're going to see.
00:23:47
We're going to see a story.
00:23:48
Yeah.
00:23:49
Like you said, I don't think he's going to just stack wins and never lose.
00:23:50
I think he's going.
00:23:51
You've got to lose to tell the story the right way.
00:23:54
Yeah.
00:23:55
Absolutely.
00:23:56
Look at what Cody did.
00:23:57
You've got to lose to be able to tell the right story.
00:23:59
And that's, I think we're going to see that with Cena this year.
00:24:02
I'm interested in how they do that in 12 months.
00:24:06
You know what I mean?
00:24:07
Like, how do they put a bow on that type of career and tell the right story that makes sense to end his career over the next 12 months?
00:24:17
I mean, it's more than, it's more than the most, you know, usually you don't get to plan out your, your farewell tour because I think I'm glad he's like,
00:24:28
and I don't know who's all, whether it's his idea or creative's idea to do this this way.
00:24:36
It sounds, it's got his name written all over it as far as creative.
00:24:42
But it's, it's, it's a, it's a cool way for somebody that's meant so much to the business to go out and give that many opportunities for people to see him live and kind of do that.
00:24:55
Yeah.
00:24:56
I think I think it may probably be the, you know, the way, again, the way of the future for rest, how they go out, how they go out, because I don't expect,
00:25:07
I wouldn't expect him if he's going to do this this way and go out this way.
00:25:11
I don't expect him to make, make a comeback.
00:25:14
He even said, and I mean, in a, in a press conference that I think it was post, uh, raw on Monday that you will see him again, but it's going to be a student tie.
00:25:23
It's going to be in a more of a, yeah, business type of role.
00:25:28
He always wants to be part of WWE.
00:25:29
It's in his blood, but he's not going to, you won't see him in the, in the jorks and, uh, yeah, in the tank tops anymore or whatever, and, uh, do you wish that you would have had that type of exit or are you?
00:25:42
I think it does.
00:25:43
It made it harder on me.
00:25:48
I mean, you, you said back now, you know, I had to be in 2020.
00:25:54
It would have been cool, but I don't know that you can do it with my character.
00:25:57
It was.
00:25:58
That's the one thing that I was thinking.
00:25:59
I don't know if your character makes sense to do.
00:26:01
Yeah.
00:26:02
I mean, what am I going to do?
00:26:03
Like, right?
00:26:04
I can't, I can't embrace the crowd.
00:26:06
I know I couldn't do any of those things.
00:26:08
So, um, you know, it just, the only thing I could think of is if the, let's say your streak never got broken, if you were at like number 24 and it was going to be the 20,
00:26:19
it could be the 25th win type of thing.
00:26:22
You know what I mean?
00:26:23
Like, is that going to be your last wrestle?
00:26:24
Mania, and you're right off in the sunset type of thing and kind of figure out if, maybe that was your, you've announced going into WrestleMania.
00:26:31
This was going to be it.
00:26:32
This is going to be the last one for you and you're going to get that 25th signature win.
00:26:35
And, yeah, it could have figured out something there of that angle.
00:26:38
But I think a 12-month farewell tour, I don't think that makes sense with the Undertaker character.
00:26:45
Yeah.
00:26:46
No, I don't either.
00:26:47
Yeah.
00:26:48
And by the time I'd get to the end of it, if I had to work 12 months straight, then I'd be like, ah, I could keep going.
00:26:53
You're about to retire at 30.
00:26:56
I could do this.
00:26:57
I could do this forever, man.
00:26:58
You can be.
00:26:59
Well, I think 2025 is going to be maybe the great, maybe the greatest year we're going to see in WWE's history.
00:27:10
You're talking Netflix, the other night, we've got Manian Vegas.
00:27:16
I mean, this year Survivor Series, I believe, is a two-night event.
00:27:22
Could be.
00:27:23
I think it's going to, yeah, I think it's going to be a two-night event.
00:27:26
Nothing that announced that there's so many great things that are happening right now for WWE.
00:27:32
And we had LFG coming down the pike, bro.
00:27:34
We got LFG coming down a pike where we're going to see the big man.
00:27:38
Is that going to be on USA, A&E?
00:27:39
Then it's going to be on A&E.
00:27:41
A&E?
00:27:42
Yeah.
00:27:43
Yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be killer, man.
00:27:46
Yeah.
00:27:47
That's going to be fun to watch.
00:27:48
When does that air do you know?
00:27:50
I believe I don't know for sure.
00:27:53
Yeah.
00:27:54
It starts maybe February.
00:27:55
Yeah.
00:27:56
I was looking online, I couldn't find.
00:27:58
Yeah.
00:27:59
I think you're still kind of toying with the starting dates.
00:28:01
Yeah.
00:28:02
Yeah.
00:28:03
I'm sure we're going to have to do some quite a bit of media tour to promote it and everything too.
00:28:09
Yeah.
00:28:10
But we're still, I mean, we're still in the process of filming season one.
00:28:12
So yeah, you still got a little bit of work to do.
00:28:14
Yeah.
00:28:15
Yeah.
00:28:16
But I think people are really going to enjoy, again, they're going to enjoy that.
00:28:20
And I think it'll be kind of the precipice of things to come as far as, um, thanks for that.
00:28:28
The SARS.
00:28:29
You gave me for Christmas.
00:28:30
There you go.
00:28:31
Santa Claus brought you something.
00:28:32
Yeah.
00:28:33
Yeah.
00:28:34
He did.
00:28:35
Yeah.
00:28:36
It's fun, man.
00:28:37
WWE is on a, on a crazy trajectory right now.
00:28:43
And we talked earlier in 2024, like, you know, it's never been better.
00:28:49
And then, you know, Netflix rolls out with that raw, and I'm excited.
00:28:54
Now I'm like, man, between now and mania, this is going to be an epic Q one and for wrestling.
00:29:02
Yeah.
00:29:03
Like, this is going to be a lot of fun to watch what happens.
00:29:06
Vegas is going to be insane.
00:29:08
Yeah.
00:29:09
Absolutely.
00:29:10
Yeah.
00:29:11
Yeah.
00:29:12
Yeah.
00:29:13
So just think of, I mean, before we close, I mean, just think of all the potential, the potential matches and storylines that there's a million.
00:29:20
There's millions because finally, the roster is deep again.
00:29:24
Yeah.
00:29:25
People are coming back that, you know, healthy men's and women's division, too, both, it's going to be, it's going to be free.
00:29:32
And it goes back to like, who opens up and who may not be.
00:29:36
These matches.
00:29:37
You know what I mean?
00:29:38
Like, and with Roman coming back, him and rock of, you know, sorted things out over here.
00:29:46
Yeah.
00:29:47
Oh, yeah.
00:29:48
And if they're there and all of a sudden rocks loving on, you know, Cody.
00:29:54
And I'm like, what is, what is going to happen?
00:29:57
Who's Cody going to wrestle?
00:29:58
You know what I mean?
00:29:59
Like, where does this go?
00:30:00
Yes.
00:30:01
Great.
00:30:02
This is great.
00:30:03
Yeah.
00:30:04
Like to have this meant like, where?
00:30:05
What happens with Goon third?
00:30:06
You know what I mean?
00:30:07
Like, all of this stuff.
00:30:08
I'm going, there's so many different angles.
00:30:11
There's so many different ways for this to go.
00:30:13
I have no idea who's going to win Royal Rumble.
00:30:17
Everyone of course is saying it's going to be seen as to that he can wrestle.
00:30:20
Me personally, I think the story lines better if he doesn't win the Rumble.
00:30:24
And then we're really going to be trying to figure out where does Cena fit in this whole thing because everyone believes he's going to win the title for the 17th time.
00:30:33
Does, are you telling me that he's going to ride off without winning the title or are you going to like, all of these things?
00:30:38
Oh, he's what ifs.
00:30:40
How does this all fit?
00:30:42
And I think that's what's special about what's going on right now.
00:30:45
And I think that's what's special about, you know, Netflix being involved in it.
00:30:48
It's a great time, man.
00:30:49
It's a great time to be a wrestling fan.
00:30:50
Yeah.
00:30:51
It really is.
00:30:52
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So, before we close this out, we got sent some gifts at Christmas.
00:32:48
We did?
00:32:49
We got sent some gifts.
00:32:50
Well, good.
00:32:51
I know what you were on the naughty list.
00:32:54
They were all sent to you.
00:32:55
Oh, no, explain it.
00:32:56
They were sent through me, too.
00:32:57
You had explained it.
00:32:58
Yes.
00:32:59
So, the first one, it's very special.
00:33:03
As you know, I'm a former night ranked fifth in the state of South Carolina wrestler.
00:33:13
So, my high school found out about that and they found out that we've been talking about it.
00:33:19
So, they sent you.
00:33:20
They sent me.
00:33:21
This is your high school?
00:33:22
This is my high school.
00:33:23
Oh, man.
00:33:24
The poor room satirians of Spartanburg South Carolina sent you one of our broom wrestling shirts.
00:33:32
So, this will be worn on the pod, I promise you guys.
00:33:36
They, my cousin sits on the athletic board or whatever and shared it with the wrestling coach and stuff.
00:33:45
So, they put together, they sent me one, sent you one, for the, he's like, man, they talk about Matt being a wrestler in high school all the time and Undertaker makes fun of him.
00:33:58
Centurion.
00:33:59
Centurion.
00:34:00
Centurion.
00:34:01
Centurion.
00:34:02
Centurion.
00:34:03
Centurion.
00:34:04
I appreciate that.
00:34:05
I appreciate that.
00:34:06
What was, I know that's your, your, your nickname of the centurion, what was the name of the high school?
00:34:16
Broom.
00:34:17
Broom centurion.
00:34:18
Broom high school.
00:34:19
Now, home of the centurions.
00:34:20
All right.
00:34:21
Thank you.
00:34:22
Home of Lee Haney.
00:34:23
Lee Haney.
00:34:24
Yeah.
00:34:25
Now, Lee Haney went there.
00:34:29
And he said, "Hey, Wilkins, a simple champion."
00:34:32
Geez, man.
00:34:33
I just found about like 800 people.
00:34:34
And then our boy Maven, Maven Huffman, one of our favorite guests.
00:34:39
Yeah, absolutely.
00:34:40
One of the nicest guys in the world sent us a gift.
00:34:43
So on YouTube, you don't get any special reward when you hit 500,000 subscribers.
00:34:50
They don't do anything for you.
00:34:51
They can care less apparently.
00:34:53
They only start caring.
00:34:54
They care at like 100,000 and then a million and then like 10 million.
00:34:58
So we're at like six, 50 something on my 700,000.
00:35:07
So yeah, we're doing pretty good.
00:35:11
Okay.
00:35:12
So Maven didn't have our episodes best of, yeah, essentially.
00:35:16
Yeah.
00:35:17
Those were like, "You're busy.
00:35:20
I've got a job."
00:35:21
And we're like, "Oh, I can't make it this week."
00:35:24
That's horrible.
00:35:25
So he sent us a, "What did he send us, man?
00:35:27
What is this?"
00:35:28
A World Heavyweight Championship belt that he had custom made.
00:35:31
Holy crap.
00:35:32
The Winged Eagle.
00:35:33
The Winged.
00:35:34
That is the championship.
00:35:35
Right there.
00:35:36
It is.
00:35:37
The Championship.
00:35:38
And that's it.
00:35:39
I mean, that belt.
00:35:40
That's legit.
00:35:41
Pretty legit.
00:35:42
I mean, it's pretty heavy.
00:35:43
It's got your name on it.
00:35:45
It's got the YouTube logo and stuff, everything on it.
00:35:50
And the play button.
00:35:51
Maven, Maven.
00:35:52
Maven, Maven.
00:35:53
And there's this 500,000 subscribers right there in the middle of the Winged Eagle.
00:35:58
Uh, how cool was that, man?
00:36:00
Yeah.
00:36:01
So he can, we don't do things like this because we don't think, do we?
00:36:04
Yeah.
00:36:05
I mean, literally when these cameras get turned off, people, so do we.
00:36:09
Mark gets in his truck.
00:36:10
He goes home.
00:36:11
I clean up around here.
00:36:12
I go to the hotel.
00:36:14
We talk about a leap before.
00:36:16
Man.
00:36:17
That's.
00:36:18
That's legit.
00:36:19
Yeah.
00:36:20
Right there.
00:36:21
Maven is just.
00:36:22
He's awesome.
00:36:23
Because in all honesty, Maven is one of the nicest guys that.
00:36:27
In the business.
00:36:28
Like he is.
00:36:29
He's.
00:36:30
He's a legit dude.
00:36:31
Yeah.
00:36:32
That's really cool.
00:36:33
We definitely got to get him back on this year.
00:36:34
I'm going to hang that up in the gym, bro.
00:36:35
I really.
00:36:36
That's going to be your.
00:36:37
Yeah.
00:36:38
Yeah.
00:36:39
That's, that's going up on the wall.
00:36:42
We appreciate that, Maven.
00:36:43
Thank you so much.
00:36:44
Do you want to do what you said that?
00:36:45
Oh, did you think he was going to your house?
00:36:47
Oh, he could.
00:36:48
Maybe.
00:36:49
I mean, if you want, I'll just keep the marino jersey I got for you.
00:36:54
Oh, Jesus.
00:36:55
What?
00:36:58
I really, I really do that.
00:37:01
Oh, man.
00:37:02
I'm trying.
00:37:03
But I don't know.
00:37:04
What do you think, Don?
00:37:05
Yeah.
00:37:06
That was good.
00:37:07
That was good.
00:37:08
I always thought I look good with a championship on me.
00:37:12
Well, I mean, if it's like any other one that's going to come off of you, really quit.
00:37:16
Yeah.
00:37:17
It might be.
00:37:18
I won't have this.
00:37:19
I won't have this in the next episode.
00:37:21
You won't have a very well.
00:37:22
I would have already dropped it.
00:37:23
I would have lost it.
00:37:26
I would have lost it.
00:37:27
I would have lost it.
00:37:28
Two out of three loser leave title match to to Matt by next time.
00:37:34
Yeah.
00:37:35
Well, that's for them.
00:37:36
Man.
00:37:37
Maybe in such a nice.
00:37:38
He is.
00:37:39
For him to do that, man.
00:37:40
And he is.
00:37:41
Yeah.
00:37:42
He's legit, man.
00:37:43
And he said that.
00:37:44
I get it at the house and stuff.
00:37:46
And you know, I get all I've got all this stuff at the house.
00:37:49
And he's like, what is this belt that you have here?
00:37:52
And so people come over if we go out of town to watch our dogs and stuff.
00:37:56
And it's usually like our neighbor.
00:37:58
And she's like, I never know what I'm going to see when I walk into the bonus room.
00:38:03
Because that's where I put everything and the dogs hang out there.
00:38:06
The bonus room.
00:38:07
The bonus room.
00:38:08
The bonus room.
00:38:09
And she's like, there's helmets and all this other stuff in there.
00:38:13
And I was like, yeah, that's like I get sent stuff constantly now.
00:38:16
But 2025, man, we're looking forward to it.
00:38:19
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00:40:02
The people's.
00:40:03
The people's.
00:40:04
The people's man.
00:40:05
You're the real people's champion.
00:40:07
Huh?
00:40:08
I'm just saying.
00:40:09
Screw rock.
00:40:10
You're the people's champion.
00:40:11
He kind of likes your ball.
00:40:12
He's your ball.
00:40:13
He's your ball.
00:40:14
He's your ball.
00:40:15
I know all these guys that broke in the business after me or hire up the food chain now.
00:40:19
Did you mentor?
00:40:20
Huh?
00:40:21
Now you're like, how many times did you go to Triple H?
00:40:23
Say, man, maybe you're.
00:40:24
How many times did he come?
00:40:25
Do you want advice?
00:40:26
How many times have brought it?
00:40:27
Come to you for advice?
00:40:28
No.
00:40:29
Dude.
00:40:30
We can't even get them on the podcast.
00:40:31
Dude.
00:40:32
That's a deal, right?
00:40:33
Man.
00:40:34
I did it all wrong, man.
00:40:36
You did it all wrong.
00:40:37
I didn't.
00:40:38
You should have went to the movies, which you did, but.
00:40:40
I did that before.
00:40:41
That's right.
00:40:42
Yeah.
00:40:43
Well, we appreciate y'all.
00:40:44
Thank you so much.
00:40:45
I'm better.
00:40:46
Please subscribe to the channel if you haven't already and check us out next week with a new episode.
00:40:53
Thank y'all so much.
00:40:54
Thank you.
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