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We're pregnant with our rainbow baby

We're pregnant with our rainbow baby

Update: 2026-03-25
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This podcast episode details the speaker's fourth pregnancy, which occurred after a previous loss, highlighting the profound emotional and mental challenges. The journey is marked by anxiety, fear, and a heightened awareness of life's fragility. Medical complications such as a subchorionic hemorrhage and a low-lying placenta requiring pelvic rest are discussed. The narrative also covers the decision to share the pregnancy publicly, the experience of a gender reveal party, and reflections on growth, gratitude, and the unique nature of pregnancy after loss. The episode includes advertisements for Time for Learning, Shopify, Pocket Hose, Little Spoon, and Upwork.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction and Educational Resources

The episode begins with a sponsor advertisement for Time for Learning, an educational platform for Pre-K through 12th grade, followed by the speaker's announcement of her fourth pregnancy and initial reflections on her physical well-being and the complexities of sharing this news publicly after past experiences.

00:02:17
Navigating Pregnancy After Loss

The speaker delves into the emotional vulnerability of public grief and the pressures of a new pregnancy after a miscarriage. She reflects on the advice received about the differing perspectives of those who have experienced loss and those who haven't, emphasizing the new reality of life's fragility. The complexities of pregnancy after loss are explored, describing it as a journey filled with fear and grief.

00:06:47
Early Pregnancy Journey and Health Considerations

The speaker recounts the timeline of her current pregnancy, starting from discovering she was pregnant in 2025, the decision to try again after a loss, and the emotional rollercoaster of early pregnancy. This section also includes discussions about medical advice to wait before conceiving again after a loss to prioritize recovery, and the disappointment of a negative pregnancy test. The decision to get a dog for joy during this uncertain time is also mentioned.

00:11:10
Signs of Pregnancy and Initial Confirmation

A birthday trip to Vegas is followed by the realization of a missed period, leading to uncertainty and hope. A faint positive pregnancy test causes confusion and disbelief, especially given past trauma. The result is described as anti-climactic, with initial denial and mental gymnastics to protect against potential heartbreak. The pregnancy is officially confirmed by the OB-GYN, and initial sharing with family and friends occurs.

00:16:58
Medical Complications and Emotional Processing

During a family trip, the speaker experiences bleeding at six weeks pregnant, leading to fear, but a heartbeat is detected. The bleeding is diagnosed as a subchorionic hemorrhage, causing concern but also relief. The pregnancy feels fragile, leading to a decision to keep it private. The speaker discusses the instinct to distract versus cherishing the pregnancy and shares insights from therapy on processing grief and fear. Journaling and connecting with the baby are highlighted as coping mechanisms.

00:24:21
Sponsors and Gender Reveal Preparations

Advertisements for Shopify and Pocket Hose are featured. The couple undergoes NIPT testing at 10 weeks to determine the baby's gender, finding that knowing early provides connection and control. They then share the story of their gender reveal party, involving family and friends, and the moment of discovering the baby's gender. The process of sharing the pregnancy news with family is recounted, along with navigating fear during family outings and humorous anecdotes about accidental reveals.

00:35:23
Reflections on Pregnancy After Loss and Support

The speaker discusses how pregnancy after loss is fundamentally different, marked by uncertainty and gratitude. The couple reflects on their growth, increased love, and openness to expanding their family, finding peace in their journey. Profound gratitude for the gift of life and the miracle of pregnancy is expressed. The decision to share the pregnancy news with friends and family is seen as a way to alleviate fear and embrace excitement, with telling a specific friend marking a turning point towards peace.

00:38:20
Navigating Physical Changes and Privacy

Adjustments to gym restrictions due to a previous bleeding scare are discussed, with friends noticing changes. The speaker explains her desire for privacy regarding her pregnancy, not wanting excessive attention and needing space to process grief and fear. The common question about pregnancy duration is addressed, with the speaker revealing she is 19 weeks along.

00:40:11
The 17-Week Ultrasound and Overcoming Fear

The speaker discusses the anticipation and anxiety surrounding the 17-week mark, which proved challenging due to past trauma. The 17-week ultrasound appointment takes place in the same room where a previous loss was discovered, intensifying fear. A prolonged wait in the waiting room exacerbates anxiety. The concept of the body remembering trauma is discussed, leading to heightened anxiety. Relief comes when the baby is confirmed healthy, allowing for gender reveal planning.

00:44:15
Gender Reveal Celebration and Practicalities

The couple begins planning the gender reveal party shortly after the 17-week appointment, acknowledging the last-minute nature of the arrangements. Superstitions and deep-seated fear influenced the decision to delay planning. Illogical fears, such as avoiding bringing children to appointments, are shared. The joyful gender reveal party with over 50 guests is described, featuring local businesses. An ant problem at home is humorously noted. Gender reveals are viewed as a celebration of life.

00:50:16
Sponsors and Pregnancy Terminology

Advertisements for Little Spoon and Upwork are presented. The couple discusses the complexities of referring to their current pregnancy, distinguishing between the number of children and pregnancies.

00:53:39
High-Risk Appointment and Pelvic Rest

The couple attends an 18-week high-risk appointment where they learn the baby is healthy but the placenta's position requires attention. The speaker is advised to be on pelvic rest due to the placenta being low and close to the cervix, limiting high-intensity workouts and intercourse. The doctor explains the placenta's placement and the risks involved, noting it is less than two centimeters from the cervix.

00:58:48
Baby's Details and Future Planning

The couple reveals they know the baby's gender and due date (August 11th), which is also Abby's dad's birthday, noting a family trend of August birthdays. The speaker humorously suggests timing a future pregnancy for Halloween for belly painting. Gratitude for her partner's support, which makes her feel safe and validated, is expressed, allowing her to embrace excitement. The possibility of a babymoon trip is discussed.

01:01:06
Explaining Pregnancy and Adjusting to Limitations

The speaker recounts how they explained pregnancy to their young sons, focusing on love and using age-appropriate terms. Adjustments required by pelvic rest, including daily walks and listening to audiobooks, are discussed. The speaker shares positive feelings about her changing body and the joy of feeling the baby's kicks early on. The decision to avoid pregnancy apps due to realistic, sometimes unsettling, depictions of fetal development is explained.

01:06:09
Staying Present and Explaining Conception

The speaker emphasizes the importance of staying present and connected to the baby during pregnancy after loss, actively fighting the urge to distract herself. The couple discusses how they explained the concept of conception to their young son, focusing on love as the basis for making a baby.

01:07:54
Embracing Pregnancy After Loss and Gratitude

The speaker reflects on the complexities of pregnancy after loss, acknowledging that each experience is unique and emphasizing the importance of open communication and age-appropriate explanations for children. Despite past reluctance, the speaker is embracing another summer pregnancy in Arizona, prioritizing gratitude over the challenging climate. The couple discusses how they refer to their children and pregnancies, acknowledging their family structure.

01:12:17
Evaluating the Cost and Vision of Hope

The speaker shares her personal evaluation of the emotional and physical cost of pursuing pregnancy after loss, concluding that the potential joy and gift of carrying and meeting the baby were worth the risks. The couple finds motivation and strength in visualizing the day they will hold their baby, a powerful image that helps them navigate the challenges of pregnancy after loss.

Keywords

Time for Learning


Educational platform for Pre-K through 12th grade, offering homeschooling and supplemental learning resources with core and elective classes.

Pregnancy After Loss


The emotional and physical journey of conceiving and carrying a pregnancy following a miscarriage or stillbirth, often involving heightened anxiety and fear.

Subchorionic Hemorrhage


A common cause of vaginal bleeding in early pregnancy, occurring between the uterine wall and the outer fetal membrane, often requiring monitoring.

Pelvic Rest


Medical recommendation to avoid activities that could strain the pelvic region during pregnancy, such as intercourse and strenuous exercise, to prevent complications.

Placenta Previa


A condition where the placenta partially or completely covers the cervix, potentially causing bleeding and requiring careful monitoring and pelvic rest.

Gender Reveal


A celebration to announce the baby's gender, often involving parties and creative reveals, providing a sense of connection and control during pregnancy.

Grief and Trauma Processing


Psychological and emotional methods, including therapy and journaling, used to cope with and integrate the experiences of loss and trauma.

High-Risk Pregnancy


Pregnancies that carry a greater risk of complications for the mother or baby, requiring specialized medical care and monitoring.

NIPT Test


Non-Invasive Prenatal Testing used to screen for chromosomal abnormalities and determine the baby's gender.

Family Support


The role of family and loved ones in providing emotional support and celebrating milestones during pregnancy, especially after loss.

Q&A

  • What is Time for Learning and who is it for?

    Time for Learning is an educational platform offering Pre-K through 12th grade curriculum for homeschooling, supplemental learning, and addressing learning gaps. It provides core and elective classes with a user-friendly interface, progress tracking, and flexible scheduling, suitable for families seeking structure with personalized learning.

  • What are the challenges of pregnancy after loss?

    Pregnancy after loss often involves heightened anxiety, fear, and a different emotional landscape due to the trauma of previous loss. Women may experience intense worry about the current pregnancy's outcome, difficulty enjoying the process, and a need for extensive emotional processing and support.

  • What is a subchorionic hemorrhage and what are its implications?

    A subchorionic hemorrhage is bleeding that occurs between the uterine wall and the outer fetal membrane. While it can cause vaginal bleeding and concern, it is often manageable, and many pregnancies continue successfully. It may require monitoring and pelvic rest.

  • What does "pelvic rest" entail during pregnancy?

    Pelvic rest involves avoiding activities that could strain the pelvic area, such as intercourse, strenuous exercise, and heavy lifting. It is recommended in certain high-risk pregnancies to reduce the risk of complications like preterm labor or bleeding, often for several weeks.

  • How do the speakers navigate the emotional complexities of pregnancy after loss?

    They navigate this by prioritizing open communication, seeking professional support like therapy, journaling, cherishing each day, and leaning on each other. They also find strength in visualizing the future and sharing their journey to connect with others.

  • What is the significance of knowing the baby's gender early in a pregnancy after loss?

    Knowing the baby's gender early can provide a sense of connection, humanity, and control in a pregnancy that may feel fragile and uncertain. It allows parents to name the baby and bond with them more fully, offering a tangible focus amidst lingering fears.

  • What is placenta previa and what are its risks?

    Placenta previa is a condition where the placenta partially or completely covers the cervix. This can cause significant bleeding during pregnancy and delivery, often requiring pelvic rest and careful monitoring to prevent complications like detachment.

  • How is the NIPT test used in this pregnancy?

    The NIPT test is used at 10 weeks to determine the baby's gender, providing a sense of connection and control for the parents, especially given their history of loss.

  • What is the role of visualization in coping with pregnancy after loss?

    Visualizing holding the baby provides motivation and strength, helping the couple navigate the challenges and anxieties associated with pregnancy after loss.

  • Why did the speaker decide to avoid pregnancy apps?

    The speaker avoided pregnancy apps due to their realistic, sometimes unsettling, depictions of fetal development and a desire to not "bank on" future milestones, preferring to stay present.

Show Notes

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In this episode Matt and Abby get honest about what this rainbow baby pregnancy has actually felt like: the joy, the grief, and the complicated space where both live at the same time. They open up about the fear leading up to that 17-week appointment and what it has meant to finally let themselves feel hopeful again.

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Chapters:

00:47 - Why we waited to share
05:15 - Finding out we're pregnant
15:28 - Bleeding scare and coping
22:50 - Ad Break
26:31 - Finding out the gender
29:07 - Telling our family
38:36 - Reaching the 17 week mark
45:35 - Gender reveal party
49:11 - Ad Break
52:02 - Pelvic Rest
59:52 - Telling our boys
01:02:09 - Feeling the baby kick
01:09:21 - Talking about baby #4

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